Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-11-2016, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Show me one "cold blooded killing". I will destroy any arguement you put fourth.

I have to agree for the most part. Calling it "cold blooded killing" is both disingenouous and unhelpful. The most recent one that may be subject to debate is the shooting death of Walter Scott in South Carolina last year. But I don't even want to go there.

People always want to "put themselves in the blacks shoes". How about putting yourself in the officers shoes? Better yet, put yourself in my shoes. Try being a minority and a officer.

Can you help frame this for us then? While I agree that "cold blood" isn't on the table, it would be helpful to understand the thought processes that lead to the snap judgement to discharge a firearm into a citizen. Given what you have seen and heard about these two incidents how could each have ended differently? To the average person it seems unjustified because it doesn't seem like there is an obvious threat that demands lethal force in response. Is there another perspective that you can offer?

SFIAH

voodooido · 07-11-2016, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I have to agree for the most part. Calling it "cold blooded killing" is both disingenouous and unhelpful. The most recent one that may be subject to debate is the shooting death of Walter Scott in South Carolina last year. But I don't even want to go there.

Can you help frame this for us then? While I agree that "cold blood" isn't on the table, it would be helpful to understand the thought processes that lead to the snap judgement to discharge a firearm into a citizen. Given what you have seen and heard about these two incidents how could each have ended differently? To the average person it seems unjustified because it doesn't seem like there is an obvious threat that demands lethal force in response. Is there another perspective that you can offer?

SFIAH

Ill start with the Baton Rouge shooting. The officers tazed, then went hands on, then tazed again, then went hands on again. He fought through all of these things. We watched multiple videos in briefing on a big screen and broke it all down. The right hand of the suspect was free and heading down towards his pants. Now, the gun he had was a revolver. I train Jiu Jitsu and can create space. Who is to say he could not do the same? If he gets his hand down to his pocket he does not have to reach in the pocket to pull the trigger. The guy had a CH as long as my leg. The officers were use to dealing with him and had taken guns off him in the past. We never want to shoot a suspect but I do want to go home. Therefore before he shoots me I must shoot first. I promise you the DOJ will see it as a good shooting.

You and I have weeks to break down what happened. Those officers had a split second to decide to take his life. Not something ANY officer wants to do.

07-11-2016, 12:37 AM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,790	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by voodooido Show me one "cold blooded killing". I will destroy any arguement you put fourth. I have to agree for the most part. Calling it "cold blooded killing" is both disingenouous and unhelpful. The most recent one that may be subject to debate is the shooting death of Walter Scott in South Carolina last year. But I don't even want to go there. People always want to "put themselves in the blacks shoes". How about putting yourself in the officers shoes? Better yet, put yourself in my shoes. Try being a minority and a officer. Can you help frame this for us then? While I agree that "cold blood" isn't on the table, it would be helpful to understand the thought processes that lead to the snap judgement to discharge a firearm into a citizen. Given what you have seen and heard about these two incidents how could each have ended differently? To the average person it seems unjustified because it doesn't seem like there is an obvious threat that demands lethal force in response. Is there another perspective that you can offer? SFIAH
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07-11-2016, 02:41 PM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,870	Re: Khiry Robinson and Lance Moore - Cop Haters Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I have to agree for the most part. Calling it "cold blooded killing" is both disingenouous and unhelpful. The most recent one that may be subject to debate is the shooting death of Walter Scott in South Carolina last year. But I don't even want to go there. Can you help frame this for us then? While I agree that "cold blood" isn't on the table, it would be helpful to understand the thought processes that lead to the snap judgement to discharge a firearm into a citizen. Given what you have seen and heard about these two incidents how could each have ended differently? To the average person it seems unjustified because it doesn't seem like there is an obvious threat that demands lethal force in response. Is there another perspective that you can offer? SFIAH Ill start with the Baton Rouge shooting. The officers tazed, then went hands on, then tazed again, then went hands on again. He fought through all of these things. We watched multiple videos in briefing on a big screen and broke it all down. The right hand of the suspect was free and heading down towards his pants. Now, the gun he had was a revolver. I train Jiu Jitsu and can create space. Who is to say he could not do the same? If he gets his hand down to his pocket he does not have to reach in the pocket to pull the trigger. The guy had a CH as long as my leg. The officers were use to dealing with him and had taken guns off him in the past. We never want to shoot a suspect but I do want to go home. Therefore before he shoots me I must shoot first. I promise you the DOJ will see it as a good shooting. You and I have weeks to break down what happened. Those officers had a split second to decide to take his life. Not something ANY officer wants to do. jnormand, CheramieIII, RockyMountainSaint and 1 others like this.
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