Saints sign Dwight Smith!

saintswhodi · 03-07-2005, 02:30 PM

That\'s what I wanted. Let Smith play CB, move Bellamy to FS for a year, and draft Davis. Then we would be able to get picks for Howard instead of trading for Darius, and his big contract wants. He is also 30. With the extra picks we can make a move for DJ, or draft a corner in the second round, and prep him to move to a starter next year, and move Smith to FS next year. Then we would have Smith and Davis as our safeties. Wow. With MM and a young corner from the draft in 2006. We would also not have Howard\'s contract, and can work deals for Deuce and Horn(if necessary). Just thoughts.

GoldenTomb · 03-07-2005, 02:30 PM

Saints have been rumored to draft about everyone, from Jamaal Brown, Anttaj Hawthorne, and Thomas Davis all the way to Alex Smith. We probably won\'t know who the Saints want until the pick gets to the podium.

yasoon · 03-07-2005, 02:52 PM

Trying to make projections based on what the Saints will do in the draft is pointless.I honestly don\'t allow myself to think about the draft till I see what they\'ve done afterwards.
As for Bellamy at FS, I disagree. He is more of a run stuffing SS and I think he should stay there. The corners played well at the end of the year and Fakhir may be able to cut it as a starter. (If he doesn\'t, you give Smith a shot and move Mel to FS.)

As it is, if we get a solid LB via the draft or FA and Sully truly comes ready to play (I\'ll believe it when I see it)....this could be really good. Move Howard for a similar value at another position and the D could hit the field looking alot better. You can never have enough studs on D.

saintswhodi · 03-07-2005, 03:08 PM

Bellamy played FS his whole career until he got here. I think he could still do it. Or let Davis play FS. Whatever gets Smith at corner for this year. I like Brown, but I am far from sold and Smith is an upgrade. Whatever the case may be, I am glad we got him.

GumboBC · 03-07-2005, 03:20 PM

Bellamy played FS his whole career until he got here. I think he could still do it. Or let Davis play FS. Whatever gets Smith at corner for this year. I like Brown, but I am far from sold and Smith is an upgrade. Whatever the case may be, I am glad we got him.

Regardless of where Bellamy used to play, he doesn\'t have the speed anymore to play FS.

Speed isn\'t the only factor for a FS. But, it\'s a big one. Sammy Knight just got cut from the Dohphins because he doesn\'t have the speed anymore.

saintswhodi · 03-07-2005, 03:31 PM

I thought Sammy was a SS. Was he playing FS for them? Whatever the case may be, even Roy williams in Dallas has played FS, and noone is enamored with his speed. As a matter of fact, his hits are what he is most known for as he rarely makes an INT or pass break ups. I am not saying Bellamy is the long term answer there. But he shouldn\'t kill us for a year. We are thin at corner as is, and Smith would play there cheap. But like I said, Davis can play FS then. If Roy Williams can do it, he sure as hell can.

GumboBC · 03-07-2005, 03:49 PM

Overall, I think Bellamy is a big liability at FS. Could he do it? Maybe. But, I don\'t want to find out.

The whole point was to get a ball hawking saftey who is a differece maker in the seconday. Bellamy comes nowhere close to that description.

Also, our cornerbacks seem to be in much better shape than our safeties. Addition by subtraction just doesn\'t add up to me...

saintswhodi · 03-07-2005, 03:55 PM

Okay, I repeat:

But like I said, Davis can play FS then.

And leave Bellamy at strong. With Ambrose and Craft gone, we are thin at CB. I am not as sold on Fakhir as some, as he did a fine job. If we are talking about upgrading, Smith is an upgrade to our corners. Allows us to draft Davis. Or Mitchell can play FS or SS. Whatever the scenario, I like Smith better at corner than safety, although I am sure he would be great at either.

Danno · 03-07-2005, 03:58 PM

Okay, I repeat:

But like I said, Davis can play FS then.

And leave Bellamy at strong. With Ambrose and Craft gone, we are thin at CB. I am not as sold on Fakhir as some, as he did a fine job. If we are talking about upgrading, Smith is an upgrade to our corners. Allows us to draft Davis. Or Mitchell can play FS or SS. Whatever the scenario, I like Smith better at corner than safety, although I am sure he would be great at either.

When did Craft leave? I thought we had an offer on the table for him.
Has he signed somewhere else?

saintswhodi · 03-07-2005, 04:01 PM

I thought Craft was UFA? If not, my bad. I am not excited about him at corner if he is or isn\'t under a contract. He was a 5th round pick and plays like one. I would prefer MM and Smith with Brown as a nickel. I wish we could unload Thomas, the bum. Then it\'s either Davis(if drafted) and Mitchell at safety or Davis and Bellamy. Either way, I would feel better about our corner situation, and we draft a Carlos rogers or Webster or Jackson in the 2nd at corner to take over the spot in a year, and move Smith to FS then. But that\'s just me. Noone has to agree. It was just a thought.

03-07-2005, 02:30 PM	#31
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Saints sign Dwight Smith! That\'s what I wanted. Let Smith play CB, move Bellamy to FS for a year, and draft Davis. Then we would be able to get picks for Howard instead of trading for Darius, and his big contract wants. He is also 30. With the extra picks we can make a move for DJ, or draft a corner in the second round, and prep him to move to a starter next year, and move Smith to FS next year. Then we would have Smith and Davis as our safeties. Wow. With MM and a young corner from the draft in 2006. We would also not have Howard\'s contract, and can work deals for Deuce and Horn(if necessary). Just thoughts.

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03-07-2005, 02:52 PM	#33
yasoon 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 594	Saints sign Dwight Smith! Trying to make projections based on what the Saints will do in the draft is pointless.I honestly don\'t allow myself to think about the draft till I see what they\'ve done afterwards. As for Bellamy at FS, I disagree. He is more of a run stuffing SS and I think he should stay there. The corners played well at the end of the year and Fakhir may be able to cut it as a starter. (If he doesn\'t, you give Smith a shot and move Mel to FS.) As it is, if we get a solid LB via the draft or FA and Sully truly comes ready to play (I\'ll believe it when I see it)....this could be really good. Move Howard for a similar value at another position and the D could hit the field looking alot better. You can never have enough studs on D.
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03-07-2005, 03:08 PM	#34
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Saints sign Dwight Smith! Bellamy played FS his whole career until he got here. I think he could still do it. Or let Davis play FS. Whatever gets Smith at corner for this year. I like Brown, but I am far from sold and Smith is an upgrade. Whatever the case may be, I am glad we got him.

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GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Saints sign Dwight Smith! Bellamy played FS his whole career until he got here. I think he could still do it. Or let Davis play FS. Whatever gets Smith at corner for this year. I like Brown, but I am far from sold and Smith is an upgrade. Whatever the case may be, I am glad we got him. Regardless of where Bellamy used to play, he doesn\'t have the speed anymore to play FS. Speed isn\'t the only factor for a FS. But, it\'s a big one. Sammy Knight just got cut from the Dohphins because he doesn\'t have the speed anymore.
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03-07-2005, 03:31 PM	#36
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Saints sign Dwight Smith! I thought Sammy was a SS. Was he playing FS for them? Whatever the case may be, even Roy williams in Dallas has played FS, and noone is enamored with his speed. As a matter of fact, his hits are what he is most known for as he rarely makes an INT or pass break ups. I am not saying Bellamy is the long term answer there. But he shouldn\'t kill us for a year. We are thin at corner as is, and Smith would play there cheap. But like I said, Davis can play FS then. If Roy Williams can do it, he sure as hell can.

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GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Saints sign Dwight Smith! Overall, I think Bellamy is a big liability at FS. Could he do it? Maybe. But, I don\'t want to find out. The whole point was to get a ball hawking saftey who is a differece maker in the seconday. Bellamy comes nowhere close to that description. Also, our cornerbacks seem to be in much better shape than our safeties. Addition by subtraction just doesn\'t add up to me...
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03-07-2005, 03:55 PM	#38
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Saints sign Dwight Smith! Okay, I repeat: But like I said, Davis can play FS then. And leave Bellamy at strong. With Ambrose and Craft gone, we are thin at CB. I am not as sold on Fakhir as some, as he did a fine job. If we are talking about upgrading, Smith is an upgrade to our corners. Allows us to draft Davis. Or Mitchell can play FS or SS. Whatever the scenario, I like Smith better at corner than safety, although I am sure he would be great at either.

03-07-2005, 03:58 PM	#39
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Saints sign Dwight Smith! Okay, I repeat: But like I said, Davis can play FS then. And leave Bellamy at strong. With Ambrose and Craft gone, we are thin at CB. I am not as sold on Fakhir as some, as he did a fine job. If we are talking about upgrading, Smith is an upgrade to our corners. Allows us to draft Davis. Or Mitchell can play FS or SS. Whatever the scenario, I like Smith better at corner than safety, although I am sure he would be great at either. When did Craft leave? I thought we had an offer on the table for him. Has he signed somewhere else?

03-07-2005, 04:01 PM	#40
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Saints sign Dwight Smith! I thought Craft was UFA? If not, my bad. I am not excited about him at corner if he is or isn\'t under a contract. He was a 5th round pick and plays like one. I would prefer MM and Smith with Brown as a nickel. I wish we could unload Thomas, the bum. Then it\'s either Davis(if drafted) and Mitchell at safety or Davis and Bellamy. Either way, I would feel better about our corner situation, and we draft a Carlos rogers or Webster or Jackson in the 2nd at corner to take over the spot in a year, and move Smith to FS then. But that\'s just me. Noone has to agree. It was just a thought.