Register All Albums FAQ Community Experience
Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints

Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense | NOLA.com...

Like Tree18Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-24-2016, 08:55 AM   #1
Fan Since 1967
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Nomad
Posts: 7,487
Blog Entries: 3
Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense | NOLA.com
CheramieIII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2016, 01:13 PM   #2
The Professor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Lithonia, GA
Posts: 2,776
Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

And water is wet, Captain Obvious Holder...

I will be so glad when next week comes and there are actual players and actual plays to talk and write about instead of stating the... obvious.

SFIAH
halloween 65 and Rell&Gold like this.
SaintFanInATLHELL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2016, 01:39 PM   #3
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Washington, D.C
Posts: 2,887
Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

Thats new news to NOBODY
Rell&Gold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2016, 03:37 PM   #4
Truth Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R)
Posts: 24,723
Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

The majority of articles written in local papers this time of year are directed at the casual fan, not the obsessed fans that live on message boards.

Its a great re-cap for the fan who only pays attention 6 to 8 months out of the year.

Most Saints fans couldn't name 3 new players on this year's team.

Holder didn't write this for us guys.
Danno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2016, 11:29 AM   #5
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,525
Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

It fails to address exactly how long a piece of string is and how high is up!
jnormand likes this.
vpheughan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2016, 12:12 PM   #6
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 13,101
Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

Best Line "Dumping Brandon Browner instantly improves the Saints defense in the secondary. Anyone with a pulse can recognize that."
Beastmode likes this.
spkb25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2016, 01:43 PM   #7
The Professor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Lithonia, GA
Posts: 2,776
Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
The majority of articles written in local papers this time of year are directed at the casual fan, not the obsessed fans that live on message boards.

Its a great re-cap for the fan who only pays attention 6 to 8 months out of the year.

Most Saints fans couldn't name 3 new players on this year's team.

Holder didn't write this for us guys.
That notwithstanding, it's still not real smart to title it something obvious. It's like having an article titled "Saints win game because they scored more points." It's obvious on its face.

Just a simple title of "X ways the Saints defense will improve in 2016..." would have covered the topic.

SFIAH
Danno likes this.
SaintFanInATLHELL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2016, 01:58 PM   #8
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 9,050
Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

They will also be sunk if their defense takes two steps up and our offense takes one step back.
The Dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2016, 02:58 PM   #9
The Professor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Lithonia, GA
Posts: 2,776
Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
They will also be sunk if their defense takes two steps up and our offense takes one step back.
Not sure that's the case. We have the 2010 season as a sample. The offense dropped from 1st to 11th in scoring from 2009 while the defense rose from the low 20s to the top 10. Team ended up 11-5, which while ending up a small step back, certainly wasn't a complete disaster.

Also there's no substantive evidence that the offense is going to be significantly different that it's been in the past. As a scientist I'm a strong believer that past performance mitigated by changes are a strong predictor of future expectations. Considering the performance of the offense last year, coupled with what are effectively minor changes in the offseason, there's no reason to believe that the offense will be much different than it's been in the past. Frankly if the offense was really going to take a step back it should have been last year when Graham was traded. He was a major cog in how the offense operated. But it didn't miss a beat.

SFIAH
Danno and halloween 65 like this.

Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO

Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.
SaintFanInATLHELL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2016, 03:13 PM   #10
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana
Posts: 5,893
Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL View Post
Not sure that's the case. We have the 2010 season as a sample. The offense dropped from 1st to 11th in scoring from 2009 while the defense rose from the low 20s to the top 10. Team ended up 11-5, which while ending up a small step back, certainly wasn't a complete disaster.

Also there's no substantive evidence that the offense is going to be significantly different that it's been in the past. As a scientist I'm a strong believer that past performance mitigated by changes are a strong predictor of future expectations. Considering the performance of the offense last year, coupled with what are effectively minor changes in the offseason, there's no reason to believe that the offense will be much different than it's been in the past. Frankly if the offense was really going to take a step back it should have been last year when Graham was traded. He was a major cog in how the offense operated. But it didn't miss a beat.

SFIAH
I agree with every word. It goes to show how important a D really is and how Graham was just a chess piece in Paytons O.
halloween 65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/78968-saints-will-sunk-again-without-improved-defense.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense This thread Refback 07-24-2016 12:30 PM 1


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:42 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts