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Not sure in what he has left but worth kicking tbe tyres i guess

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I really wanted bolden . . I wonder what the SAINTS saw in Hakeem Nicks ?? ?

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Don't understand this move at all. Personally never thought he was that great. He don't have great hands and has been a problem in locker rooms in the past. To me it would be better to roll with what you got.

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We've flirted with him a lot these last 2 years... I guess putting Vincent Brown on IR made coach finally pull the trigger and bring him in. No idea what he has to offer us though.

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I doubt he makes the 53. If he can help out, great. If not he gets to play around at camp until he's cut.

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Wonder what happened with Meachem?

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It looks to be a numbers signing, we only signed him when Brown went to IR and he visited and talked plenty of times before.

I doubt he makes the final 53, may be kept on retainer just in case of injury.

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He's cheap, gets a chance, is another camp body, and may end up only a camp body.

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kind of thinking the same...hey does he have anything left, we'll find out

probably won't make it, but probably depends on how Mike looks

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My guess is that he's veteran insurance against injury.

Let him learn our system, develop some chemistry with Brees, and if we suffer a few injuries at WR call him in.

I can't see him being a legit #4 or #5 WR since those guys are usually young pups who play special teams very well.

My suspicion is he's an option if Coleman regresses.

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If he has anything left he would make a great 5th receiver. Coach had to see something that made him believe.

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Wonder what kept Boldin from being signed..

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Age, speed and money. :confused:

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I've always liked him. He had a couple of really good seasons with the Giants. He fell off after that but a QB like Brees and a coach like Payton may be just what he needs. This could turn out to be a good signing.

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Been around a bit.


New York Giants (2009−2013)
Indianapolis Colts (2014)
Tennessee Titans (2015)*
New York Giants (2015)
New Orleans Saints (2016−present)

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No. Payton is starting to play with receivers like he does his kickers. This signing makes no sense for starter reasons. And as someone said he's no leader. Everyone is relying on Drew making him better than he really is.

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And Danno, that sig scares me.

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Competition makes everyone better.

Tough crowd ...

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Invisible man when he was up here with the Colts.

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Leadership role.

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Payton told you this?

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Really? sad pick if that was the goal.

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I don't understand why that would be a goal at all. There are so many posts here recently about the receiver core needing leadership. But there isn't a single solitary shread of evidence that I can identify that justifies that need.

If we had receivers that had issues like Bryant from Pittsburgh or Gordon from Cleveland, then I could see the need. But has anyone seen anything from our receiver corps other than coming to work and producing?

What's this thought on the supposed leadership deficit? I really don't understand where this is coming from.

SFIAH

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It's literally just a camp body signing, he may not even make it past the first wave of cuts.

We sent vincent Brown to IR so we signed another veteran to fill his spot.

If we desperately needed a WR to play and give leadership, boldin would have been signed.

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We tried to sign Boldin, he preferred the Lions.

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Keep in mind folks, Brandon Coleman isn't actually that good. He had a couple of drops in practice today. The competition for the 4th WR spot and potentially a 5th spot if we keep 5 is likely wide open.

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Apparently we brought Boldin in but it was our choice not to sign him, Katherine Terrell of Nola.com said the saints haven't spoken to Boldin in months and it was just Rappoport talking BS again.

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I believe that's the reality. I'm just trying to understand this perception that the Saints receivers needs a veteran leader.

Maybe. But why is there this seemingly pervasive feeling that the Saints need that type of play and leadership from the WR position?

SFIAH

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I can buy that. But I'll keep pressing the question of why does that need to be a veteran WR to provide leadership to that group. Is it just a knee jerk reaction to Colston being gone?

There's no real production issue. Cooks, Sneed, and Coleman accounted for half the yards and 40% of the completions and passing TDs that the team had last year.

The 5th WR has to play on special teams. That means it's likely to be a young guy, not a vet.

Now maybe there is someone out there that can outplay Coleman. I'm presuming we all agree that Thomas will occupy the 3rd slot behind Cooks and Sneed.

So there's this call for the pressing need to fill the 4th WR position? What exactly is so urgent about that?

SFIAH

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Perhaps leadership had nothing at all to do with it?

Maybe they think he can fill in if we suffer injuries during the season?

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Less money??:D

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Danno,

I'm not really asking about the reality of the situation. The reality of camp body or an extra guy that knows the offense and can be on speed dial makes perfect sense.

What I'm asking about the perception that the WR corps needs "veteran leadership" as if starting for an NFL squad for 2-3 years doesn't make you a veteran. I know it's coming from some feeling that something needs to be done. I'm just trying to understand where that feeling is coming from.

Many were al atwitter a the thought the Saints could sign Bolden. All I could wonder about is exactly where he would fit.

SFIAH

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No it's obvious. My opinion was the rest of the post after the first sentence.

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Because they were relying on getting CJ back but he went to the bears.

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By "they" you means the fans that have the perception that the Saints needs additional veteran leadership? Or are you talking about the organization itself?

Still points to the same issue. Curtis Johnson had been gone from the Saints staff for several years. As I keep repeating over and over again:

It's not the same situation as the defense last year, which was arguably the worst in the history of the league. Note that Rob Ryan was fired because of historically poor defensive performance over a 25 game span or so.

I just keep asking because it makes no logical sense. So there must be a feeping driving this. I just want someone to explain that feeling and make some kind of logical connection to reality.

AFAICT The Saints have no production issues at the receiver position. The Saints have no character issues at the receiving position. The Saints have no demonstrable coaching issues at the receiver position. The only argument that could be proffered is that there may be a depth and/or health issue at the position. That may make sense. But I just cannot see how a free agent veteran receiver is going to come in and displace Cooks, Sneed, and presumably Thomas for significant snaps in this offense.

So what exactly is this talk about Boldin, Nicks, Brown, etc. really about?

Maybe is just much ado about nothing. So unless I see a substantive argument as to why this is so crucial, I guess I'll just let this go.

SFIAH

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theres two answers i really like
1- danno spot on basically insurance policy
2- the dude brees could light him up on a second career

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We have a very young group of WR's. Bring in someone with experience?

Also not a bad idea to have someone in camp and use to the Saints system in case injury bug hits that unit so you can call him up.

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That may be a question for Coach Payton to answer. Here is a quote from him earlier today after day #2 of TC.

Payton says he likes Nicks' veteran experience, infectious personality, good hands, ability in traffic. "Plus he wouldn't stop texting me."