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spkb25 08-06-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 711063)
Seriously, defenses are traditionally ahead of offenses this time of year; it's just that our defense hath sucketh like no defense hath sucketh before...

Now with just one defensive coordinator (one voice, one vision) and better, deeper front seven talent, we're looking like a defense that, at the least, must be respected...

dude i agree with your post minus that absolute nonsense about one d coordinator. There never were two of them and we hired someone into the exact same position dennis had last year so it isn't like that position went away. this is a good post just shutup with that already lolol

frydaddy 08-06-2016 12:27 PM

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It seems for some, the glass will always be half empty. The offensive line is no worse than it was last year, and I have some hope than when Armstead returns it will actually be better. As for Brees, I'm sure he's accustomed to being able to do whatever he wants against our D, and that's beginning to change finally. He will get it figured out and he will surely abuse the defense some days..which will no doubt have the hand wringers back on his side and complaining about the defense. It's training camp guys and gals. We haven't even gotten a preseason game under our belt yet. Settle down and just enjoy the fact that football is back.

spkb25 08-06-2016 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 711078)
It seems for some, the glass will always be half empty. The offensive line is no worse than it was last year, and I have some hope than when Armstead returns it will actually be better. As for Brees, I'm sure he's accustomed to being able to do whatever he wants against our D, and that's beginning to change finally. He will get it figured out and he will surely abuse the defense some days..which will no doubt have the hand wringers back on his side and complaining about the defense. It's training camp guys and gals. We haven't even gotten a preseason game under our belt yet. Settle down and just enjoy the fact that football is back.

tell ya what i would much rather here our d is being competitive then that the offense is running wild.

|Mitch| 08-06-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 711081)
tell ya what i would much rather here our d is being competitive then that the offense is running wild.

Competition makes everyone better; the defense is winning right now which in turn makes the offense work harder to achieve perfection. When the offense starts winning, the defense in turn will work harder... win/win in my opinion :bng:

Rugby Saint II 08-06-2016 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 711083)
Competition makes everyone better; the defense is winning right now which in turn makes the offense work harder to achieve perfection. When the offense starts winning, the defense in turn will work harder... win/win in my opinion :bng:

Remember the training camp from '09 when defense ***** slapped the offense? This has a similar feel to it.

K Major 08-06-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 711064)
I sure hope the reason the defense looks so good isn't because of that offensive line.

We (or at least I do) think that every year in TC. There's no answer to your question yet.

The offense has made their fair share of plays, but the defense is doing their thing as well. It's encouraging to see the defense take advantage of offensive mistakes, which we didn't see very much of the past two seasons (credit DA and his staff).

The Patriots joint practices and 1st preseason game next week will be quite telling.

ChrisXVI 08-06-2016 01:55 PM

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jeanpierre 08-06-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 711077)
dude i agree with your post minus that absolute nonsense about one d coordinator. There never were two of them and we hired someone into the exact same position dennis had last year so it isn't like that position went away. this is a good post just shutup with that already lolol

There is no nonsense; my name is not dude; and unless you have no clue Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen were essentially co-defensive coordinators last season as Allen was hired as Senior Defensive Assistant and part of his duties were to help Ryan "assist and better organize the defense" per Sean Payton; there're numerous article from last year; we discussed this here last season ad nauseum...

(excerpt from Dennis Allen on his job change, what he brings to New Orleans Saints' defense | NOLA.com )

Do you think there was ever any confusion within the players of who was in charge of the defense when you and Rob were together?

"You'd have to ask the players that. I don't have the answer to that question. I don't think that was the case. I think I tried to make it as clear as possible that Rob was in charge, and Rob was in charge."


Allen gave the PC answer, but the reporters knew it and eventually got a few players on local news stated that there was less confusion now that one defensive coordinator (Allen) was in charge...

Payton should have just fired Ryan before the season and begun the inevitable; instead, the Saints FO went through the farce and motions that Ryan was going to be given a chance to turn it around...

jeanpierre 08-06-2016 02:06 PM

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And so Coach spoke...


|Mitch| 08-06-2016 02:08 PM

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