Training Camp Day 10

spkb25 · 08-06-2016, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Seriously, defenses are traditionally ahead of offenses this time of year; it's just that our defense hath sucketh like no defense hath sucketh before...

Now with just one defensive coordinator (one voice, one vision) and better, deeper front seven talent, we're looking like a defense that, at the least, must be respected...

dude i agree with your post minus that absolute nonsense about one d coordinator. There never were two of them and we hired someone into the exact same position dennis had last year so it isn't like that position went away. this is a good post just shutup with that already lolol

jeanpierre · 08-06-2016, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

dude i agree with your post minus that absolute nonsense about one d coordinator. There never were two of them and we hired someone into the exact same position dennis had last year so it isn't like that position went away. this is a good post just shutup with that already lolol

There is no nonsense; my name is not dude; and unless you have no clue Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen were essentially co-defensive coordinators last season as Allen was hired as Senior Defensive Assistant and part of his duties were to help Ryan "assist and better organize the defense" per Sean Payton; there're numerous article from last year; we discussed this here last season ad nauseum...

(excerpt from Dennis Allen on his job change, what he brings to New Orleans Saints' defense | NOLA.com )

Do you think there was ever any confusion within the players of who was in charge of the defense when you and Rob were together?

"You'd have to ask the players that. I don't have the answer to that question. I don't think that was the case. I think I tried to make it as clear as possible that Rob was in charge, and Rob was in charge."

Allen gave the PC answer, but the reporters knew it and eventually got a few players on local news stated that there was less confusion now that one defensive coordinator (Allen) was in charge...

Payton should have just fired Ryan before the season and begun the inevitable; instead, the Saints FO went through the farce and motions that Ryan was going to be given a chance to turn it around...

spkb25 · 08-06-2016, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

There is no nonsense; my name is not dude; and unless you have no clue Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen were essentially co-defensive coordinators last season as Allen was hired as Senior Defensive Assistant and part of his duties were to help Ryan "assist and better organize the defense" per Sean Payton; there're numerous article from last year; we discussed this here last season ad nauseum...

(excerpt from Dennis Allen on his job change, what he brings to New Orleans Saints' defense | NOLA.com )

Do you think there was ever any confusion within the players of who was in charge of the defense when you and Rob were together?

"You'd have to ask the players that. I don't have the answer to that question. I don't think that was the case. I think I tried to make it as clear as possible that Rob was in charge, and Rob was in charge."

Allen gave the PC answer, but the reporters knew it and eventually got a few players on local news stated that there was less confusion now that one defensive coordinator (Allen) was in charge...

Payton should have just fired Ryan before the season and begun the inevitable; instead, the Saints FO went through the farce and motions that Ryan was going to be given a chance to turn it around...

You are so wrong it is absurd.
THEY HIRED SOMEONE INTO THE SAME EXACT POSITION DENNIS HAD LAST YEAR.
By that logic we again have two D coord's

Less confusion when Allen is in charge is not the same as your initial statement. It implies that Rob had the D confused. It stated he would change the entire dfense from mini-camp to training camp. How do you equate (all on your own btw) that Dennis and Rob being here caused the confusiomn, because we had just as many issues with confusion before Dennis ever arrived.

The players said that the calls for defense are shorter, that it is more streamlined so they do not have issues getting lined up. You took a situation, placed your spin on it, ignored the same confusion that existed in 14 and created a story that is completely false

I love how you also take and place this in underneath your link to the article as if it came from the article when in fact this came from you:

Allen gave the PC answer, but the reporters knew it and eventually got a few players on local news stated that there was less confusion now that one defensive coordinator (Allen) was in charge...

Payton should have just fired Ryan before the season and begun the inevitable; instead, the Saints FO went through the farce and motions that Ryan was going to be given a chance to turn it around..

That is your ideas and language, not from the article.

spkb25 · 08-06-2016, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

There is no nonsense; my name is not dude; and unless you have no clue Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen were essentially co-defensive coordinators last season as Allen was hired as Senior Defensive Assistant and part of his duties were to help Ryan "assist and better organize the defense" per Sean Payton; there're numerous article from last year; we discussed this here last season ad nauseum...

(excerpt from Dennis Allen on his job change, what he brings to New Orleans Saints' defense | NOLA.com )

Do you think there was ever any confusion within the players of who was in charge of the defense when you and Rob were together?

"You'd have to ask the players that. I don't have the answer to that question. I don't think that was the case. I think I tried to make it as clear as possible that Rob was in charge, and Rob was in charge."

Allen gave the PC answer, but the reporters knew it and eventually got a few players on local news stated that there was less confusion now that one defensive coordinator (Allen) was in charge...

Payton should have just fired Ryan before the season and begun the inevitable; instead, the Saints FO went through the farce and motions that Ryan was going to be given a chance to turn it around...

AND FOR GOOD MEASURE (SINCE YOU CONVENIENTLY CHOSE TO IGNORE IT) WE HIRED SOMEONE INTO THE POSITION DENNIS HELD LAST YEAR.

08-06-2016, 12:24 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Training Camp Day 10 Originally Posted by jeanpierre Seriously, defenses are traditionally ahead of offenses this time of year; it's just that our defense hath sucketh like no defense hath sucketh before... Now with just one defensive coordinator (one voice, one vision) and better, deeper front seven talent, we're looking like a defense that, at the least, must be respected... dude i agree with your post minus that absolute nonsense about one d coordinator. There never were two of them and we hired someone into the exact same position dennis had last year so it isn't like that position went away. this is a good post just shutup with that already lolol

08-06-2016, 02:04 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Training Camp Day 10 Originally Posted by spkb25 dude i agree with your post minus that absolute nonsense about one d coordinator. There never were two of them and we hired someone into the exact same position dennis had last year so it isn't like that position went away. this is a good post just shutup with that already lolol There is no nonsense; my name is not dude; and unless you have no clue Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen were essentially co-defensive coordinators last season as Allen was hired as Senior Defensive Assistant and part of his duties were to help Ryan "assist and better organize the defense" per Sean Payton; there're numerous article from last year; we discussed this here last season ad nauseum... (excerpt from Dennis Allen on his job change, what he brings to New Orleans Saints' defense \| NOLA.com ) Do you think there was ever any confusion within the players of who was in charge of the defense when you and Rob were together? "You'd have to ask the players that. I don't have the answer to that question. I don't think that was the case. I think I tried to make it as clear as possible that Rob was in charge, and Rob was in charge." Allen gave the PC answer, but the reporters knew it and eventually got a few players on local news stated that there was less confusion now that one defensive coordinator (Allen) was in charge... Payton should have just fired Ryan before the season and begun the inevitable; instead, the Saints FO went through the farce and motions that Ryan was going to be given a chance to turn it around...
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08-06-2016, 02:10 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Training Camp Day 10 Originally Posted by jeanpierre There is no nonsense; my name is not dude; and unless you have no clue Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen were essentially co-defensive coordinators last season as Allen was hired as Senior Defensive Assistant and part of his duties were to help Ryan "assist and better organize the defense" per Sean Payton; there're numerous article from last year; we discussed this here last season ad nauseum... (excerpt from Dennis Allen on his job change, what he brings to New Orleans Saints' defense \| NOLA.com ) Do you think there was ever any confusion within the players of who was in charge of the defense when you and Rob were together? "You'd have to ask the players that. I don't have the answer to that question. I don't think that was the case. I think I tried to make it as clear as possible that Rob was in charge, and Rob was in charge." Allen gave the PC answer, but the reporters knew it and eventually got a few players on local news stated that there was less confusion now that one defensive coordinator (Allen) was in charge... Payton should have just fired Ryan before the season and begun the inevitable; instead, the Saints FO went through the farce and motions that Ryan was going to be given a chance to turn it around... You are so wrong it is absurd. THEY HIRED SOMEONE INTO THE SAME EXACT POSITION DENNIS HAD LAST YEAR. By that logic we again have two D coord's Less confusion when Allen is in charge is not the same as your initial statement. It implies that Rob had the D confused. It stated he would change the entire dfense from mini-camp to training camp. How do you equate (all on your own btw) that Dennis and Rob being here caused the confusiomn, because we had just as many issues with confusion before Dennis ever arrived. The players said that the calls for defense are shorter, that it is more streamlined so they do not have issues getting lined up. You took a situation, placed your spin on it, ignored the same confusion that existed in 14 and created a story that is completely false I love how you also take and place this in underneath your link to the article as if it came from the article when in fact this came from you: Allen gave the PC answer, but the reporters knew it and eventually got a few players on local news stated that there was less confusion now that one defensive coordinator (Allen) was in charge... Payton should have just fired Ryan before the season and begun the inevitable; instead, the Saints FO went through the farce and motions that Ryan was going to be given a chance to turn it around.. That is your ideas and language, not from the article.
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08-06-2016, 02:12 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Training Camp Day 10 Originally Posted by jeanpierre There is no nonsense; my name is not dude; and unless you have no clue Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen were essentially co-defensive coordinators last season as Allen was hired as Senior Defensive Assistant and part of his duties were to help Ryan "assist and better organize the defense" per Sean Payton; there're numerous article from last year; we discussed this here last season ad nauseum... (excerpt from Dennis Allen on his job change, what he brings to New Orleans Saints' defense \| NOLA.com ) Do you think there was ever any confusion within the players of who was in charge of the defense when you and Rob were together? "You'd have to ask the players that. I don't have the answer to that question. I don't think that was the case. I think I tried to make it as clear as possible that Rob was in charge, and Rob was in charge." Allen gave the PC answer, but the reporters knew it and eventually got a few players on local news stated that there was less confusion now that one defensive coordinator (Allen) was in charge... Payton should have just fired Ryan before the season and begun the inevitable; instead, the Saints FO went through the farce and motions that Ryan was going to be given a chance to turn it around... AND FOR GOOD MEASURE (SINCE YOU CONVENIENTLY CHOSE TO IGNORE IT) WE HIRED SOMEONE INTO THE POSITION DENNIS HELD LAST YEAR.

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