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Lets hear it. I only watched it off and on but I saw

Good
D line-good pressure
linebackers-looked commanding
Grayson decent
Brees and Cooks for sure-hes probably still got it.
young guys like Lasco, Lewis, Thomas

Bad
Offensive line even 1st string
Luke
Running game
Stopping the run

Like I said I only saw it off and on but I am overall encouraged by what I saw on defense. We need to find a offensive lineman fast.

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The bad was penalties and turnovers... we gave up 4 and had NONE.

You can NEVER win like that.

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Got that right. Turnover ratio is the main statistic that counts in this league.

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Rushing... we average 2 yards per carry... they average over 5....

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I've got one word for this game... Sloppy.

Last year we were sloppy on the defensive side, this year to start its the offense. Should get it cleaned up but not a great start to the season.

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8-8

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I'm not panicking based on the first preseason game.

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16-0 if we ever find another field goal kicker in my lifetime.

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I'm glad i didn't go to the game. Drew 1 series and out. I had to work so i didn't see much.

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That kick was ugly. It didnt look tipped so looks a complete miskick. I've never been kern on wasting a draft pick on a kicker when so many good kickers seem to be UDFA but at this stage id glady pay a 4th like the Pats did for a reliable kicker. I mean at this stage id just be happy with somebody automatic inside 45 yards. Give me a Justin Tucker who even in his worst year was 80% outdoors in 40-49 yards

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Well that just shows that defense can improve as much as it wants it's not gonna help the offense on it's own. Defenses responded aggressively to ours.

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defense?
DL looked awful
needs time to gel?
Offense?
Peat is still struggling at RT
When Armstead returns I will start judging

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GOOD

Brees and wr look like they on beat
Fairley look like the real deal
Laurinaitis played well
Ellderbe is a beast
Vaccarro look like in mid season form
Edebali look like the answer for de

BAD


Crawley & Bell need to work on tackling
Coleman need to be more aggressive catching (just release him)
Lelito is to slow with the jab and easily beaten
Peat, I just hope he just had a bad day
Luke, his passes were awful

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If you can't stop the run....


For having 4 in this game, we didn't lose that badly.

The other backs brought up Ingram's average of 1.8 yards per carry. Lasco is a keeper and should beat out the predator.

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I'm wondering if some of y'all even watched the same game I did. Our defense looked great, with mostly backups.
It was a typical preseason game, but there were way more things to like than dislike

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I paid more attention to the defense ...

Rankins (intense motor) and Fairley looked good and will cause issues for offenses.
Edebali has improved his game this off season. Will be a threat.
Davison may become a beast int he trenches as he was constantly in the back field.

Our young rookie corners are learning (sure there is work to do but it's a start). Rarely did you hear PJ Williams named called. That's a good thing.

James L is a not a fast guy but he COMMUNICATES on the field. Guys weren't out of position or incorrectly lined up. Saw some nice good things stuffing the run early on.

Starting defense played well. I'm encouraged with the progress Coach Dennis is making thus far. They will continue to improve.

Oh and this without our best defensive player .. Cameron Jordan.

Side note: I hope Stephone Anthony is ok. I understand he was carted off last night right before the half.

I did notice offensively that COLEMAN could be in trouble. His game is not where it needs to be. He rarely reacts to the ball and doesn't seem to use his large frame in tight windows. This guy should be dominating in the flat. TommyLee or Harris could take his spot if he's not careful.

On the flip side ... MICHAEL THOMAS aka MR. ROOKIE is good. He is fearless and makes big catches. The stage isn't too big for him. I really like his style of play & swagger. His future is bright.

Improve, stay healthy and get better every week is my hope for this team.

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This is why you don't read to much into what you hear coming out of camp.

The only two things I head from camp that actually made sense based on the game was WR Thomas and WR TOMMY LEE.

None of the rest matched to what I saw on the field last night.

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Grayson - I just didn't see anything that would warrant keeping him. Maybe practice Squad if he lasts that long but didn't see much growth. He needs to come out and make statements that he can be a back up and even take Bree's spot when he retires and not seeing it.

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It was a Saints game without Brandon Browner anywhere on the field or sidelines, therefore I was very interested in watching the defense again.

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The first 3 series for the Pats amounted to 25...I didn't think the starters on d played bad at all. The Dline looked very good. The 2nd qrter things fell apart some, we let up a td and fg and they had 192 yards of offense. I truly felt the interior pressure, especially from davidson was good. Edibali had two sacks. Fairley looked quick to get inside on a few plays, too quick on one that he over ran the play. I saw reason for optimism on D, but let's see how we continue and what happens in the dome week 1

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Yeah I don't know where the criticism for the dline is coming from. We had two sacks early and davidson was constantly disrupting.

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The only disappointing thing I saw with the D-Line was Davis Tull. He looked completely ineffective.

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luke m. was disappointing, he did'nt play like we've seen him play in pass 2 years, was throwing off back foot when he had time. throwing it up for grabs was ugly, no height on ball to help receiver, was he pissed because he had clean up roll with the 2s and 3s 4s 5s. i have to give nod to grayson except his first play, that was a turable call, anyway. payton loooked teed off because of 20 flags that were bone headed and that can't be coached.

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Marcus Murphy could be a very special player in the special teams area however those muffs/fumbles have got to stop.

Would really like to see TommyLee back on punts/kick offs next game. This could be his spot to take.

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Agreed. Marcus Murphy was already on my bad side for putting the ball on the ground too many times on punts. And last night, he did it again, but the Patriots let him off the hook.

I hope he and Brandon Coleman get cut immediately.

I've come to call Coleman "Mouse," cause he plays like one.

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Mostly ugly in my view. Bad calls on D and absolutely not much after the first string players.

They have a long way to go to beat 7-9 from last year. At least at this point of preseason.

One announcer put it best: "This team has a one superstar and a few above average players. But, it has a whole lot of average types."

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Id say we have far more than above average players
Armstead is as good as any LT in the league
They are not at the very top but there are a few just on the edge of that
Cooks,Jordan,Breaux,Ingram,Unger, all sit there
Just behind the like of Vacaro,Snead and hopefully Thomas,Rankins,Fairley


I know not many of you are soccer fans but Leicster City won the premier league last year,over 9 months and 38 games a team with no superstars won a league. good team work,momentum and some self belief can go a long way

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That GG pick was partly on Coleman, he heard footsteps. For being such a big guy he plays so small. Cooks is more physical than Coleman...

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You cant be cutting Murphy yet
He had a decent average last year as a return guy.
If he is still doing it game 3 then yeah he is likely out the door. guy deserves time he is only early in career yet

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I was thinking the same. Especially when it came to pressure. I thought line did well.

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By bad calls do you mean coaching? It's preseason and they don't put to much into calls. They are more focused on mechanics and putting players in the best position to judge where they are. Murphy cleans up fumbles and he's dangerous.

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Tru Dat! I just remember 4 or so calls that I saw from my beer googles that reminded me of another defensive coordinator we had. Like an all out blitz on 3rd and 5000, then a screen pass for 5001 yards. Or something like that. :clown:

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Lol that sounds about right.

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I liked how Rankins was always getting pressure. Keep it up Rankinstein!! He's going to be a Monster in the middle!!

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Brandin Cooks will have 100+ catches, 3700 yards, and 24 TDs this season.

I can extrapolate that from the first play of the pre-season.

I would suggest holding off on predictions until after halftime of the third preseason game. The first half of that game is the most likely predictor of the regular season because virtually every team game plans for that game and play their regular season starters until halftime.

Yesterday, the offense was skewed the moment Ingram fumbled the ball on the second play. Brees played for 2 plays. Brees will likely play nearly 1000 offensive plays during the season. Grayson and McCown will likely play none.

On the defensive side, the 1st team defense held the Pats first team offense down until the middle of the second quarter.

So there were quite a few positives to see yesterday.

The most important groups to watch in preseason are the 1s and the rotational 2s. Come the regular season, only the 1s will be playing as long as there isn't injury. 2s will rotate in for subpackages. Other than that, players are not going to make significant contributions.

SFIAH

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I like the way of thinking regarding Cooks.

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All im going to say is, 2009 0-4 pre-season. No one gave us a chance.

Have some faith people. It was the first pre-season game. Some people here are such fatalist. Keep things is perspective.

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We went 3-1 in 2009's preseason dude.

But yeah, no reason to panic, our starting offense were not out there.

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Im sure there is good and bad... but no ugly. :bart: