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ChrisXVI 08-19-2016 07:22 PM

Keenan Lewis Released
 

Wow! Didn't see this coming this soon.

ChrisXVI 08-19-2016 07:24 PM

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqQvurdW...jpg&name=large

SmashMouth 08-19-2016 07:25 PM

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He must really be hurt...

lee909 08-19-2016 07:29 PM

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How is this going to hit the cap
He still had a load of guaranteed money left

jnormand 08-19-2016 07:35 PM

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Too much upside to the newbies to keep him I guess. Not enough room on the roster for him when he's constantly hurt. At least he went out with class. Of course he's still getting paid....so I guess that helps.

ChrisXVI 08-19-2016 07:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 713028)
How is this going to hit the cap
He still had a load of guaranteed money left

That's why I'm a little shocked by this. I'm pretty sure the dead money will be substantial, but I'll need someone who's better at understanding that stuff to clarify.

lee909 08-19-2016 07:39 PM

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Im not sure hoe it works if they are injured but he had just over $7ml in dead money left

lee909 08-19-2016 07:44 PM

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Sounds a bit of he wanted IR come back when ready. Team wanted him in earlier and sick of injuries.

Time for Williams to step up


Mike Triplett
ESPN Staff Writer


CB Keenan Lewis told me he has been released by the Saints. He insisted that he is excited and ready for a fresh start, understands the business and thinks Saints were ready to move on with their young corners. Lewis said he felt like he never meshed with DC Dennis Allen and that he was closer with former DC Rob Ryan. But said he has utmost respect for Sean Payton and his hometown organization. Lewis also said they weren't arguing over his injury rehab, but he let the team know he wanted to wait until he was back close to 100 percent instead of being a part-time player at 70 percent. He said he is eager to catch on with another team and show the Saints they made a mistake.

stickman 08-19-2016 07:46 PM

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This guy was our only decent corner besides Breaux last year. They must really like the young guys if they are letting him walk away .

lee909 08-19-2016 07:49 PM

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Or they know they'll have to stick him on IR but want Rankins back meaning Lewis would miss the season anyway

frydaddy 08-19-2016 07:51 PM

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Wow. Well...unexpected, but probably for the best. Good luck in the future Keenan.

AsylumGuido 08-19-2016 07:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 713033)
Im not sure hoe it works if they are injured but he had just over $7ml in dead money left

Spotrac.com has a popup on his $7.2M dead cap that says "2106 Post June 1: $3,600,000". Not sure what that means.

lee909 08-19-2016 08:05 PM

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If you designate him a post June cut thats what you pay this year. It just pushes the rest till next year. Pushing cap into future years,that'll be it. Same story different year

cars4dylan 08-19-2016 08:08 PM

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I'm thinking the hip was just too much of a concern to wait on. We'll see....

lee909 08-19-2016 08:11 PM

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Explains the Cortland Finnegan deal. Keeps that veteran presence in the locker room cheap. That report seems to suggests a disconnect between Lewis and Allen.


Good luck to him,well as long as he digns outside the NFC South

K Major 08-19-2016 08:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 713035)
Sounds a bit of he wanted IR come back when ready. Team wanted him in earlier and sick of injuries.

Time for Williams to step up

Mike Triplett
ESPN Staff Writer

Lewis said he felt like he never meshed with DC Dennis Allen and that he was closer with former DC Rob Ryan. But said he has utmost respect for Sean Payton and his hometown organization.

Interesting but not too surprising.

Circle back to an earlier post from Danno. PJ has clearly been our #2 corner so far in camp. KL simply hasn't been 100% in 2+ seasons. If you listen at some of the early sound bytes from DeVante, PJ, Pruitt & Crawley in camp, they speak highly of Breaux as a leader... KL not so much.

It was a good ride & I enjoyed watching KL play but I think it was time for them to move on. Most of us here didn't really expect him to play much in 2016 any way.

I wish Keenan well though going forward.

WillSaints81 08-19-2016 08:18 PM

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What if Breaux or Williams get hurt?

arsaint 08-19-2016 08:19 PM

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Giving in to that guaranteed coin feels mighty stupid right now.

Personally I wish him the best.

Professionally - thanks for nothing post ultimatum.

lee909 08-19-2016 08:24 PM

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Dont think you can blame him for being injured. He tried to play through them maybe too much at times

SmashMouth 08-19-2016 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 713047)
What if Breaux or Williams get hurt?

What if we win the SB?

The Dude 08-19-2016 08:27 PM

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Too many injured bad enough to put on IR And make eligible to come back?

lee909 08-19-2016 08:28 PM

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Rankins will be the one they want back off IR

The Dude 08-19-2016 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 713055)
What if we win the SB?

Best post ever.

Halo 08-19-2016 08:33 PM

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Guess he was too hurt.
When he got hurt our secondary got weaker than it's already poor performing self.

lee909 08-19-2016 08:35 PM

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Im guessing the idea is to just go Williams and Breaux as 1-2 with Swann/Finnegan in the slot and not look at the svrubs left on the street or is a vet getting a call

AsylumGuido 08-19-2016 08:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 713057)
Rankins will be the one they want back off IR

Why IR? PUP would allow him to come back after six weeks which would give him plenty of time to recover and would get him in the lineup sooner.

lee909 08-19-2016 08:58 PM

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Honestly i cant remember exactly how it works. I thought he'd have to be on IR at the start of the season then come back of IR or am i wrong?

spkb25 08-19-2016 09:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stickman (Post 713037)
This guy was our only decent corner besides Breaux last year. They must really like the young guys if they are letting him walk away .

he hasn't played, he wasn't going to play...what's the difference at this point

FinSaint 08-19-2016 09:07 PM

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Was is that you can't go on PUP if you've participated in the preseason practices?!

K Major 08-19-2016 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 713067)
Was is that you can't go on PUP if you've participated in the preseason practices?!

You are correct.

Any player who practices with a team during training camp is not eligible to be placed on the PUP list, and the team has to either cut him or put the player on injured reserve.

SaintFanInATLHELL 08-19-2016 09:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 713063)
Why IR? PUP would allow him to come back after six weeks which would give him plenty of time to recover and would get him in the lineup sooner.

Guido,

You forgot that he practiced. Even though it was one day, he was already off of PUP. And once you come off PUP you cannot go back on it.

Only options at this point to keep him on the team was IR or a roster spot. Couldn't afford the roster spot with the young guns pushing and if put on IR would not be back this year.

Lewis now has the ability to work his way back to health and then pick the team that he thinks he can contribute to. BTW there's nothing that says that 10 weeks from now that is not in fact the Saints. It doesn't look like he burned a bridge.

SFIAH

RockyMountainSaint 08-19-2016 09:38 PM

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I was hoping against reality that he would contribute at some point this year.
We all saw the writing on the wall via rumors and sources, but it sounds like, perhaps there was one more "malcontent" that needed to go when you add KL's comments to Triplette about wanting Ryan over Allen.
Dunno.
I have a feeling that the spin machine on both sides will be heard from soon.

spkb25 08-19-2016 09:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 713031)
That's why I'm a little shocked by this. I'm pretty sure the dead money will be substantial, but I'll need someone who's better at understanding that stuff to clarify.

that's what is scaring me because we like guaranteed his contract after he threw his little ***** fit

spkb25 08-19-2016 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 713055)
What if we win the SB?

lmmfao

RockyMountainSaint 08-19-2016 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 713072)
lmmfao

IKR?
spkb25, I don't think I ever thanked you for getting rid of the Pennywise avatar.
Btw, I'm over it now.
Goodell replaced him in my nightmares.

RockyMountainSaint 08-19-2016 10:01 PM

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""It's a business. They can't wait on one player. They gotta do what's best for them, and I gotta do what's best for me," said Lewis, who said he still has the utmost respect for head coach Sean Payton and the Saints organization -- but added he didn't feel as comfortable over the past year, especially after Ryan was fired.

Lewis, who began his career with the Pittsburgh Steelers before signing with his hometown Saints in 2013, said he never had any specific arguments with Allen, who joined the Saints staff as a senior assistant in January 2015. But Lewis said he heard through other people that "I wasn't his guy."

Lewis also said he thinks the Saints were "obviously having problems with my injury situation."

The Saints have not commented on Lewis' release, but the decision likely was made for chemistry reasons as much as football reasons."
Keenan Lewis released by New Orleans Saints

The Dude 08-19-2016 10:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 713074)
""It's a business. They can't wait on one player. They gotta do what's best for them, and I gotta do what's best for me," said Lewis, who said he still has the utmost respect for head coach Sean Payton and the Saints organization -- but added he didn't feel as comfortable over the past year, especially after Ryan was fired.

Lewis, who began his career with the Pittsburgh Steelers before signing with his hometown Saints in 2013, said he never had any specific arguments with Allen, who joined the Saints staff as a senior assistant in January 2015. But Lewis said he heard through other people that "I wasn't his guy."

Lewis also said he thinks the Saints were "obviously having problems with my injury situation."

The Saints have not commented on Lewis' release, but the decision likely was made for chemistry reasons as much as football reasons."
Keenan Lewis released by New Orleans Saints

The fact that a grapevine exists is dangerous imo. If true and It was true that there was rumblings of him not being Allens guy then there is a problem. DA should have kept that between himself and the coaches along with Lewis rather than letting others find out about it. If I'm a boss and I don't like one of my employees I'm not going to tell any of my other employees about it outside of management. That's kind of a crap thing to do.
Again who knows what the truth is.

The Dude 08-19-2016 10:56 PM

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His comments also lower my opinion of him. I was willing to give him the Benifit of the doubt when he whined about his contract. It was kind of unclassy but he could play so I didn't care. The Saints bent over backwards and probably bumped some other guys of the roster to meet his demands. Now this, which sounds like it's a matter of his opinion and inability to fit in with change. Rubs me wrong.

K Major 08-19-2016 11:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 713070)
We all saw the writing on the wall via rumors and sources, but it sounds like, perhaps there was one more "malcontent" that needed to go when you add KL's comments to Triplette about wanting Ryan over Allen.
Dunno.

Could be a lot of truth to that + KL is a outspoken guy who doesn't shy away from Twitter/Instagram. This is Coach Dennis Allen's inaugural season & he has a LOT to prove. He has made it clear that he is playing the best 11 men at all times regardless of tenure. Possibly some friction between the two however this may be a encouraging sign that Allen is not here to pacify players who aren't getting it done.

Bottom line business.

spkb25 08-19-2016 11:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 713073)
IKR?
spkb25, I don't think I ever thanked you for getting rid of the Pennywise avatar.
Btw, I'm over it now.
Goodell replaced him in my nightmares.

that wasn't mine boss, but funny


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