NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE

WhoDatFan26 · 08-21-2016, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Strief is better than people give him credit for and Sergio has been fairly solid.

The two weakest players are Lelito and Peat IMO.

1.) No Strief isn't. He is done.

2.) It's Senio Kelemete. He also sucks.

This all comes down to our Coaches aversion to drafting any player from LSU. If we had taken Collins last year, we are not in this position.

frydaddy · 08-21-2016, 08:19 PM

I wanted Collins too, but that narrative is getting old. He said he wouldn't sign with anyone who drafted him outside the first round. And from what I understand we made him an offer after the draft, but he made it clear that Dallas, for whatever God awful reason, was the only place he wanted to play. You can't fault the organization for not taking him in the first when he was connected to a murder investigation, and that's the only way we could have had him.

The Dude · 08-21-2016, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

1.) No Strief isn't. He is done.

2.) It's Senio Kelemete. He also sucks.

This all comes down to our Coaches aversion to drafting any player from LSU. If we had taken Collins last year, we are not in this position.

I don't know where you get your info but Strief grades out pretty high at his position. He did better than Most other players in the league against JJ Watt last year.
Watt did school him a couple of times but he does that to everyone. Strief is a lot better than most give him credit for.
Look up some stats on him compared to others in the league and you will be surprised

WhoDatFan26 · 08-23-2016, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I don't know where you get your info but Strief grades out pretty high at his position. He did better than Most other players in the league against JJ Watt last year.
Watt did school him a couple of times but he does that to everyone. Strief is a lot better than most give him credit for.
Look up some stats on him compared to others in the league and you will be surprised

No Strief sucks. I don't care what the grade is, he is done. He has been done for the last 2 years. The only reason that he is starting is due to the fact Peat isn't ready to be The Full Time RT. In fact he may never be ready. I mean, JJ Watt was pleading with Coach Payton to better protect Drew Brees in last years game. I mean, come on man if that isn't an indication that Strief is done then nothing else will. Plus, a lot of Strief's success has to do with Drew's release and the fact that Evans was there to assist him for the last 5 years.

AsylumGuido · 08-23-2016, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

No Strief sucks. I don't care what the grade is, he is done. He has been done for the last 2 years. The only reason that he is starting is due to the fact Peat isn't ready to be The Full Time RT. In fact he may never be ready. I mean, JJ Watt was pleading with Coach Payton to better protect Drew Brees in last years game. I mean, come on man if that isn't an indication that Strief is done then nothing else will. Plus, a lot of Strief's success has to do with Drew's release and the fact that Evans was there to assist him for the last 5 years.

That is your opinion. It's wrong. But it is your opinion and you have the right to it.

WhoDatFan26 · 08-23-2016, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That is your opinion. It's wrong. But it is your opinion and you have the right to it.

Hey, I'm pretty sure I'm correct but then again you did tell us that the Drew Brees extension was signed sealed and delivered. You know no more than anyone else on this forum. Everyone has there opinion and not one person is always right. Please stop acting like you're The Mouth to God's Ear, You're Not.

Danno · 08-23-2016, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

No Strief sucks. I don't care what the grade is, he is done. He has been done for the last 2 years. The only reason that he is starting is due to the fact Peat isn't ready to be The Full Time RT. In fact he may never be ready. I mean, JJ Watt was pleading with Coach Payton to better protect Drew Brees in last years game. I mean, come on man if that isn't an indication that Strief is done then nothing else will. Plus, a lot of Strief's success has to do with Drew's release and the fact that Evans was there to assist him for the last 5 years.

Judging a RT on how well JJWatt does against you is foolish. He had 3 bad games in 2015 and played very well in the other 13.

Why must people focus on the 2 or 3 bad games instead of the 13 or 14 good ones?

No doubt he's starting to lose his battle with father time, but he didn't suck.

In fact Evans had a worse grade over the last few years than Strief did, and guess what, the coaches let Evans walk. Perhaps what you saw was Evans sucking and you blaming it on Strief?

WhoDatFan26 · 08-23-2016, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Judging a RT on how well JJWatt does against you is foolish. He had 3 bad games in 2015 and played very well in the other 13.

Why must people focus on the 2 or 3 bad games instead of the 13 or 14 good ones?

No doubt he's starting to lose his battle with father time, but he didn't suck.

In fact Evans had a worse grade over the last few years than Strief did, and guess what, the coaches let Evans walk. Perhaps what you saw was Evans sucking and you blaming it on Strief?

I guess the Tampa Bay Game didn't have anything to do with Strief either? Get over yourself.

Danno · 08-23-2016, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

I guess the Tampa Bay Game didn't have anything to do with Strief either? Get over yourself.

Not quite sure what to say about that. I've been over myself for about 40 years now because... well I'm an awesome dude who's superior to all other humans on this planet. Not sure about all the other planets yet, but I'll stand pat until proven otherwise.

You pointed to a whopping 2 out of 16 games. That's not really helping you prove your point. And adding an insult to the end of it certainly doesn't help.

Do you have anything significant or even relevant to help prove your point?

Insults omitted.

WhoDatFan26 · 08-23-2016, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Not quite sure what to say about that. I've been over myself for about 40 years now.

You pointed to a whopping 2 out of 16 games. That's not really helping you prove your point. And adding an insult to the end of it certainly doesn't help.

Do you have anything significant or even relevant to help prove your point?

Insults omitted.

Strief has been done since 2013. I don't care what statistic say. According to Statistics the offense was just as explosive last year as it was in the previous 2 years. Do you believe that also? I can throw for 500 yards after being down 35 and lose by 7, does that make it close? Get out of here with that BS!! Can you honestly say that watching Strief the last 2 years, you feel that he is as good as they statistically say he is? Seriously?!

08-21-2016, 08:14 PM	#1
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by blackangold Strief is better than people give him credit for and Sergio has been fairly solid. The two weakest players are Lelito and Peat IMO. 1.) No Strief isn't. He is done. 2.) It's Senio Kelemete. He also sucks. This all comes down to our Coaches aversion to drafting any player from LSU. If we had taken Collins last year, we are not in this position.
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08-21-2016, 08:19 PM	#2
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,964 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE I wanted Collins too, but that narrative is getting old. He said he wouldn't sign with anyone who drafted him outside the first round. And from what I understand we made him an offer after the draft, but he made it clear that Dallas, for whatever God awful reason, was the only place he wanted to play. You can't fault the organization for not taking him in the first when he was connected to a murder investigation, and that's the only way we could have had him. SaintFanInATLHELL, RockyMountainSaint and mleg1972 like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 1.) No Strief isn't. He is done. 2.) It's Senio Kelemete. He also sucks. This all comes down to our Coaches aversion to drafting any player from LSU. If we had taken Collins last year, we are not in this position. I don't know where you get your info but Strief grades out pretty high at his position. He did better than Most other players in the league against JJ Watt last year. Watt did school him a couple of times but he does that to everyone. Strief is a lot better than most give him credit for. Look up some stats on him compared to others in the league and you will be surprised
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08-23-2016, 04:58 PM	#4
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by The Dude I don't know where you get your info but Strief grades out pretty high at his position. He did better than Most other players in the league against JJ Watt last year. Watt did school him a couple of times but he does that to everyone. Strief is a lot better than most give him credit for. Look up some stats on him compared to others in the league and you will be surprised No Strief sucks. I don't care what the grade is, he is done. He has been done for the last 2 years. The only reason that he is starting is due to the fact Peat isn't ready to be The Full Time RT. In fact he may never be ready. I mean, JJ Watt was pleading with Coach Payton to better protect Drew Brees in last years game. I mean, come on man if that isn't an indication that Strief is done then nothing else will. Plus, a lot of Strief's success has to do with Drew's release and the fact that Evans was there to assist him for the last 5 years.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 No Strief sucks. I don't care what the grade is, he is done. He has been done for the last 2 years. The only reason that he is starting is due to the fact Peat isn't ready to be The Full Time RT. In fact he may never be ready. I mean, JJ Watt was pleading with Coach Payton to better protect Drew Brees in last years game. I mean, come on man if that isn't an indication that Strief is done then nothing else will. Plus, a lot of Strief's success has to do with Drew's release and the fact that Evans was there to assist him for the last 5 years. That is your opinion. It's wrong. But it is your opinion and you have the right to it.

08-23-2016, 06:31 PM	#6
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That is your opinion. It's wrong. But it is your opinion and you have the right to it. Hey, I'm pretty sure I'm correct but then again you did tell us that the Drew Brees extension was signed sealed and delivered. You know no more than anyone else on this forum. Everyone has there opinion and not one person is always right. Please stop acting like you're The Mouth to God's Ear, You're Not. saintshrimp likes this.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 No Strief sucks. I don't care what the grade is, he is done. He has been done for the last 2 years. The only reason that he is starting is due to the fact Peat isn't ready to be The Full Time RT. In fact he may never be ready. I mean, JJ Watt was pleading with Coach Payton to better protect Drew Brees in last years game. I mean, come on man if that isn't an indication that Strief is done then nothing else will. Plus, a lot of Strief's success has to do with Drew's release and the fact that Evans was there to assist him for the last 5 years. Judging a RT on how well JJWatt does against you is foolish. He had 3 bad games in 2015 and played very well in the other 13. Why must people focus on the 2 or 3 bad games instead of the 13 or 14 good ones? No doubt he's starting to lose his battle with father time, but he didn't suck. In fact Evans had a worse grade over the last few years than Strief did, and guess what, the coaches let Evans walk. Perhaps what you saw was Evans sucking and you blaming it on Strief?

08-23-2016, 06:32 PM	#8
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by Danno Judging a RT on how well JJWatt does against you is foolish. He had 3 bad games in 2015 and played very well in the other 13. Why must people focus on the 2 or 3 bad games instead of the 13 or 14 good ones? No doubt he's starting to lose his battle with father time, but he didn't suck. In fact Evans had a worse grade over the last few years than Strief did, and guess what, the coaches let Evans walk. Perhaps what you saw was Evans sucking and you blaming it on Strief? I guess the Tampa Bay Game didn't have anything to do with Strief either? Get over yourself.
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08-23-2016, 06:40 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 I guess the Tampa Bay Game didn't have anything to do with Strief either? Get over yourself. Not quite sure what to say about that. I've been over myself for about 40 years now because... well I'm an awesome dude who's superior to all other humans on this planet. Not sure about all the other planets yet, but I'll stand pat until proven otherwise. You pointed to a whopping 2 out of 16 games. That's not really helping you prove your point. And adding an insult to the end of it certainly doesn't help. Do you have anything significant or even relevant to help prove your point? Insults omitted.

08-23-2016, 06:52 PM	#10
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by Danno Not quite sure what to say about that. I've been over myself for about 40 years now. You pointed to a whopping 2 out of 16 games. That's not really helping you prove your point. And adding an insult to the end of it certainly doesn't help. Do you have anything significant or even relevant to help prove your point? Insults omitted. Strief has been done since 2013. I don't care what statistic say. According to Statistics the offense was just as explosive last year as it was in the previous 2 years. Do you believe that also? I can throw for 500 yards after being down 35 and lose by 7, does that make it close? Get out of here with that BS!! Can you honestly say that watching Strief the last 2 years, you feel that he is as good as they statistically say he is? Seriously?! RaginCajun83 likes this.
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