5-11 to 7-9

WillMacKenzie · 08-27-2016, 10:25 AM

I remember when faith was the only thing we had to go on. A busted arm that nobody wanted, a first time head coach (who by the way chose to be here after seeing the devastation), a patchwork defense, no home field, a next to last 7th rounder named Colston, basically an entire team where everyone else's castoffs came home to roost.

We also went 1-3 then in that preseason, and looked AWFUL in the Dallas game.

I don't much care what other teams are doing in the preseason. I believe in our coach, I believe in our players, I believe in our young defense, I believe in underdogs, cause I been one my whole life. Let's not turn our backs on this team when they need us the most. We're not Falcons fans.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I remember when faith was the only thing we had to go on. A busted arm that nobody wanted, a first time head coach (who by the way chose to be here after seeing the devastation), a patchwork defense, no home field, a next to last 7th rounder named Colston, basically an entire team where everyone else's castoffs came home to roost.

We also went 1-3 then in that preseason, and looked AWFUL in the Dallas game.

I don't much care what other teams are doing in the preseason. I believe in our coach, I believe in our players, I believe in our young defense, I believe in underdogs, cause I been one my whole life. Let's not turn our backs on this team when they need us the most. We're not Falcons fans.

sure if we didn't have the same coach with exactly the same results the last two seasons. your argument loses meaning because this is exactly what we have seen the previous two seasons under the same exact coach. So this is absolutely nothing like 2006, but I sure do wish you were right

WillMacKenzie · 08-27-2016, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

sure if we didn't have the same coach with exactly the same results the last two seasons. your argument loses meaning because this is exactly what we have seen the previous two seasons under the same exact coach. So this is absolutely nothing like 2006, but I sure do wish you were right

...but we got Rob'ed

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

...but we got Rob'ed

I am talking about the offense. I could care less about the d right now. That's a whole other story. Our offense is sluggish and unable to move the ball. Go back and look at last season, the start of last season. Same ineffective ****:

409 yards
323 yards
380 yards
438 yards
386 yards
385 yards

And the thing is some of these games we weren't doing much offensively until the game was out of reach. So the other team is in prevent so of course you start moving the ball.

2011:
475 yards
382 yards
454 yards
503 yards
444 yards
453 yards

2009:
515
421
378
343
493
414

But by all means tell me how the offense is just as good as it always has been

WhoDatFan26 · 08-28-2016, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I am talking about the offense. I could care less about the d right now. That's a whole other story. Our offense is sluggish and unable to move the ball. Go back and look at last season, the start of last season. Same ineffective ****:

409 yards
323 yards
380 yards
438 yards
386 yards
385 yards

And the thing is some of these games we weren't doing much offensively until the game was out of reach. So the other team is in prevent so of course you start moving the ball.

2011:
475 yards
382 yards
454 yards
503 yards
444 yards
453 yards

2009:
515
421
378
343
493
414

But by all means tell me how the offense is just as good as it always has been

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only person who sees that stats can be misleading. You will have a lot of statistics when the game is out of hand. The offense is allowed to rack up yards to get the games over quicker.

AsylumGuido · 08-27-2016, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I remember when faith was the only thing we had to go on. A busted arm that nobody wanted, a first time head coach (who by the way chose to be here after seeing the devastation), a patchwork defense, no home field, a next to last 7th rounder named Colston, basically an entire team where everyone else's castoffs came home to roost.

We also went 1-3 then in that preseason, and looked AWFUL in the Dallas game.

I don't much care what other teams are doing in the preseason. I believe in our coach, I believe in our players, I believe in our young defense, I believe in underdogs, cause I been one my whole life. Let's not turn our backs on this team when they need us the most. We're not Falcons fans.

I don't know, Will. I am a regular member of a Falcons forum and these whiney-assed people around here sound exactly like Falcons' fans.

jnormand · 08-27-2016, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I don't know, Will. I am a regular member of a Falcons forum and these whiney-assed people around here sound exactly like Falcons' fans.

Lmao! I don't throw in the towel till we're mathematically eliminated from the post season...even then I still watch and hope they win.

We haven't even started the regular season and everyone is freaking out... understandably, but still! We're undefeated right now in the regular season.

The Dude · 08-27-2016, 10:53 AM

It's not that bad. Running game improved. You guys act like every game we are going to play is going to be against a super bowl team. Other teams suck and have it worse than we do.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

It's not that bad. Running game improved. You guys act like every game we are going to play is going to be against a super bowl team. Other teams suck and have it worse than we do.

33 yards in the first quarter, not that bad at all

WillMacKenzie · 08-27-2016, 11:19 AM

I never mentioned the offense specifically, because when you're ranked #1 and #2 in total offense the last two years respectively, and have landed outside the top 5 only once in a decade, I didn't think I had to.

You can compare 3-4 combined quarters through 3 preseason games to a decade of top 5 regular season offensive statistics if you'd like.

A more telling stat is that we were still nearly 8-8 with historically bad defense. If DA's blitzing schemes can be nearly as effective as GW's, 10-6 is a reasonable goal, being only 3 games better than 7-9. We can be even better, but I'm tempering my expectations as of late.

Trying to be encouraging, just accept it! Let your troubled mind bask in the tranquility of optimism

08-27-2016, 10:33 AM	#3
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by spkb25 sure if we didn't have the same coach with exactly the same results the last two seasons. your argument loses meaning because this is exactly what we have seen the previous two seasons under the same exact coach. So this is absolutely nothing like 2006, but I sure do wish you were right ...but we got Rob'ed Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-27-2016, 10:51 AM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie ...but we got Rob'ed I am talking about the offense. I could care less about the d right now. That's a whole other story. Our offense is sluggish and unable to move the ball. Go back and look at last season, the start of last season. Same ineffective ****: 409 yards 323 yards 380 yards 438 yards 386 yards 385 yards And the thing is some of these games we weren't doing much offensively until the game was out of reach. So the other team is in prevent so of course you start moving the ball. 2011: 475 yards 382 yards 454 yards 503 yards 444 yards 453 yards 2009: 515 421 378 343 493 414 But by all means tell me how the offense is just as good as it always has been pherein and WhoDatFan26 like this.
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08-28-2016, 10:36 AM	#5
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by spkb25 I am talking about the offense. I could care less about the d right now. That's a whole other story. Our offense is sluggish and unable to move the ball. Go back and look at last season, the start of last season. Same ineffective ****: 409 yards 323 yards 380 yards 438 yards 386 yards 385 yards And the thing is some of these games we weren't doing much offensively until the game was out of reach. So the other team is in prevent so of course you start moving the ball. 2011: 475 yards 382 yards 454 yards 503 yards 444 yards 453 yards 2009: 515 421 378 343 493 414 But by all means tell me how the offense is just as good as it always has been I'm glad to see that I'm not the only person who sees that stats can be misleading. You will have a lot of statistics when the game is out of hand. The offense is allowed to rack up yards to get the games over quicker.
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08-27-2016, 06:32 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,850	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I remember when faith was the only thing we had to go on. A busted arm that nobody wanted, a first time head coach (who by the way chose to be here after seeing the devastation), a patchwork defense, no home field, a next to last 7th rounder named Colston, basically an entire team where everyone else's castoffs came home to roost. We also went 1-3 then in that preseason, and looked AWFUL in the Dallas game. I don't much care what other teams are doing in the preseason. I believe in our coach, I believe in our players, I believe in our young defense, I believe in underdogs, cause I been one my whole life. Let's not turn our backs on this team when they need us the most. We're not Falcons fans. I don't know, Will. I am a regular member of a Falcons forum and these whiney-assed people around here sound exactly like Falcons' fans.

08-27-2016, 06:45 PM	#7
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,787	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I don't know, Will. I am a regular member of a Falcons forum and these whiney-assed people around here sound exactly like Falcons' fans. Lmao! I don't throw in the towel till we're mathematically eliminated from the post season...even then I still watch and hope they win. We haven't even started the regular season and everyone is freaking out... understandably, but still! We're undefeated right now in the regular season. mleg1972 and AsylumGuido like this.

08-27-2016, 10:25 AM	#1
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 I remember when faith was the only thing we had to go on. A busted arm that nobody wanted, a first time head coach (who by the way chose to be here after seeing the devastation), a patchwork defense, no home field, a next to last 7th rounder named Colston, basically an entire team where everyone else's castoffs came home to roost. We also went 1-3 then in that preseason, and looked AWFUL in the Dallas game. I don't much care what other teams are doing in the preseason. I believe in our coach, I believe in our players, I believe in our young defense, I believe in underdogs, cause I been one my whole life. Let's not turn our backs on this team when they need us the most. We're not Falcons fans. jnormand, Danno and mleg1972 like this.

08-27-2016, 10:32 AM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I remember when faith was the only thing we had to go on. A busted arm that nobody wanted, a first time head coach (who by the way chose to be here after seeing the devastation), a patchwork defense, no home field, a next to last 7th rounder named Colston, basically an entire team where everyone else's castoffs came home to roost. We also went 1-3 then in that preseason, and looked AWFUL in the Dallas game. I don't much care what other teams are doing in the preseason. I believe in our coach, I believe in our players, I believe in our young defense, I believe in underdogs, cause I been one my whole life. Let's not turn our backs on this team when they need us the most. We're not Falcons fans. sure if we didn't have the same coach with exactly the same results the last two seasons. your argument loses meaning because this is exactly what we have seen the previous two seasons under the same exact coach. So this is absolutely nothing like 2006, but I sure do wish you were right

08-27-2016, 10:53 AM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,066	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 It's not that bad. Running game improved. You guys act like every game we are going to play is going to be against a super bowl team. Other teams suck and have it worse than we do.
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08-27-2016, 01:41 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by The Dude It's not that bad. Running game improved. You guys act like every game we are going to play is going to be against a super bowl team. Other teams suck and have it worse than we do. 33 yards in the first quarter, not that bad at all

08-27-2016, 11:19 AM	#10
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 I never mentioned the offense specifically, because when you're ranked #1 and #2 in total offense the last two years respectively, and have landed outside the top 5 only once in a decade, I didn't think I had to. You can compare 3-4 combined quarters through 3 preseason games to a decade of top 5 regular season offensive statistics if you'd like. A more telling stat is that we were still nearly 8-8 with historically bad defense. If DA's blitzing schemes can be nearly as effective as GW's, 10-6 is a reasonable goal, being only 3 games better than 7-9. We can be even better, but I'm tempering my expectations as of late. Trying to be encouraging, just accept it! Let your troubled mind bask in the tranquility of optimism Danno, AsylumGuido and frydaddy like this.

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