5-11 to 7-9

pherein · 08-27-2016, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

It' was pretty bad last night. I looked at the schedule after the game last night and 6 games I give us being generous. I don't see Brees here after this season, he'll know how Archie felt for years at this rate. Payton got away from his bread and butter, a strong O-line.

Yeah it was pretty bad. Agree with you on alot. Th OL is ... trying to think if there is a worse word than horrible. Its to bad we cant field a good team after 3 years of so called " rebuilding", very disapointing. We are not a threat to anyone. Not going to be a good season.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

It's not that bad. Running game improved. You guys act like every game we are going to play is going to be against a super bowl team. Other teams suck and have it worse than we do.

33 yards in the first quarter, not that bad at all

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I never mentioned the offense specifically, because when you're ranked #1 and #2 in total offense the last two years respectively, and have landed outside the top 5 only once in a decade, I didn't think I had to.

You can compare 3-4 combined quarters through 3 preseason games to a decade of top 5 regular season offensive statistics if you'd like.

A more telling stat is that we were still nearly 8-8 with historically bad defense. If DA's blitzing schemes can be nearly as effective as GW's, 10-6 is a reasonable goal, being only 3 games better than 7-9. We can be even better, but I'm tempering my expectations as of late.

Trying to be encouraging, just accept it! Let your troubled mind bask in the tranquility of optimism

I certainly will not accept unrealistic turd polishing. You can certainly place it forward, but I am going to produce honest assessments each and every time. You can **** rainbows and sunshine all day, but we are 7-9, 3 of the last 4 seasons, and if we have a winning record this season I will be surprised. Again, I hope all of you are correct, but there is absolutely nothing to point to such optimism, nothing at all.

By all means bask in BS, have at it because once the reality hits in the reg season you're likely to be hard to find around the boards.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

Yeah it was pretty bad. Agree with you on alot. Th OL is ... trying to think if there is a worse word than horrible. Its to bad we cant field a good team after 3 years of so called " rebuilding", very disapointing. We are not a threat to anyone. Not going to be a good season.

This is the scary part. Jacksonville looks to be improving. How can you just keep producing crap and you have been building for three years and nothing is improving.

WillSaints81 · 08-27-2016, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Really missed those days we had Aaron Kromer as the OL coordinator. If it's not the guards ****** up the rb are fumbling. Somebody, hopefully Armsted or Unger take a strong leadership role to motivate the guards to perform better

So we're going to just cry over that instead of doing something about it. There is not just one magic answer. How about actually drafting olinemen like other teams have been doing to get better. They didn't want to draft any left over guards because the good ones were gone. Well, was Vonn Bell necessary? There were two SEC guards still in that draft when we picked in fourth.

I don't think the saints honestly planned to contend this season.

WillSaints81 · 08-27-2016, 02:53 PM

I have to ask........was the dome loud? Is the flood having a effect?

And more and more I believe the family problems at the top may actually be having an effect.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 02:53 PM

deleted post, willsaint81 I confused you with willmak, my bad

The Dude · 08-27-2016, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

SP has had 5 wining seasons and 4 losing seasons. Can we really call him a good NFL coach?

One was a Super Bowl and another got us to the NFC title game. Better than most.
We miss Kromer and why we got rid of Evsns AND Grubbs at the same time baffles me.
I heard his pressor. Yes Payton our line does need to get better. Go do something about it.

jnormand · 08-27-2016, 03:00 PM

Championship!...(crickets chirping).....

I said championship!!!! Wahooo! Sean and Co. are just messin with everyone this preseason! (Still crickets)

Here we come Super Bowl!!!

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

One was a Super Bowl and another got us to the NFC title game. Better than most.
We miss Kromer and why we got rid of Evsns AND Grubbs at the same time baffles me.
I heard his pressor. Yes Payton our line does need to get better. Go do something about it.

so he used to be a good head coach. agree, but I don't think he is anymore, and I sure hope I am wrong, but the team doesn't seem to have made any progress in 3 years

08-27-2016, 02:18 PM	#51
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by halloween 65 It' was pretty bad last night. I looked at the schedule after the game last night and 6 games I give us being generous. I don't see Brees here after this season, he'll know how Archie felt for years at this rate. Payton got away from his bread and butter, a strong O-line. Yeah it was pretty bad. Agree with you on alot. Th OL is ... trying to think if there is a worse word than horrible. Its to bad we cant field a good team after 3 years of so called " rebuilding", very disapointing. We are not a threat to anyone. Not going to be a good season.

08-27-2016, 02:41 PM	#52
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by The Dude It's not that bad. Running game improved. You guys act like every game we are going to play is going to be against a super bowl team. Other teams suck and have it worse than we do. 33 yards in the first quarter, not that bad at all

08-27-2016, 02:46 PM	#53
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I never mentioned the offense specifically, because when you're ranked #1 and #2 in total offense the last two years respectively, and have landed outside the top 5 only once in a decade, I didn't think I had to. You can compare 3-4 combined quarters through 3 preseason games to a decade of top 5 regular season offensive statistics if you'd like. A more telling stat is that we were still nearly 8-8 with historically bad defense. If DA's blitzing schemes can be nearly as effective as GW's, 10-6 is a reasonable goal, being only 3 games better than 7-9. We can be even better, but I'm tempering my expectations as of late. Trying to be encouraging, just accept it! Let your troubled mind bask in the tranquility of optimism I certainly will not accept unrealistic turd polishing. You can certainly place it forward, but I am going to produce honest assessments each and every time. You can **** rainbows and sunshine all day, but we are 7-9, 3 of the last 4 seasons, and if we have a winning record this season I will be surprised. Again, I hope all of you are correct, but there is absolutely nothing to point to such optimism, nothing at all. By all means bask in BS, have at it because once the reality hits in the reg season you're likely to be hard to find around the boards.
	Your team stinks

08-27-2016, 02:47 PM	#54
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by pherein Yeah it was pretty bad. Agree with you on alot. Th OL is ... trying to think if there is a worse word than horrible. Its to bad we cant field a good team after 3 years of so called " rebuilding", very disapointing. We are not a threat to anyone. Not going to be a good season. This is the scary part. Jacksonville looks to be improving. How can you just keep producing crap and you have been building for three years and nothing is improving.

08-27-2016, 02:49 PM	#55
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by nola_swammi Really missed those days we had Aaron Kromer as the OL coordinator. If it's not the guards ****** up the rb are fumbling. Somebody, hopefully Armsted or Unger take a strong leadership role to motivate the guards to perform better So we're going to just cry over that instead of doing something about it. There is not just one magic answer. How about actually drafting olinemen like other teams have been doing to get better. They didn't want to draft any left over guards because the good ones were gone. Well, was Vonn Bell necessary? There were two SEC guards still in that draft when we picked in fourth. I don't think the saints honestly planned to contend this season.

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08-27-2016, 02:53 PM	#56
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by spkb25 SP has had 5 wining seasons and 4 losing seasons. Can we really call him a good NFL coach? One was a Super Bowl and another got us to the NFC title game. Better than most. We miss Kromer and why we got rid of Evsns AND Grubbs at the same time baffles me. I heard his pressor. Yes Payton our line does need to get better. Go do something about it.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by The Dude One was a Super Bowl and another got us to the NFC title game. Better than most. We miss Kromer and why we got rid of Evsns AND Grubbs at the same time baffles me. I heard his pressor. Yes Payton our line does need to get better. Go do something about it. so he used to be a good head coach. agree, but I don't think he is anymore, and I sure hope I am wrong, but the team doesn't seem to have made any progress in 3 years dizzle88 likes this.

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