5-11 to 7-9

WillMacKenzie · 08-27-2016, 11:25 AM

I remember when faith was the only thing we had to go on. A busted arm that nobody wanted, a first time head coach (who by the way chose to be here after seeing the devastation), a patchwork defense, no home field, a next to last 7th rounder named Colston, basically an entire team where everyone else's castoffs came home to roost.

We also went 1-3 then in that preseason, and looked AWFUL in the Dallas game.

I don't much care what other teams are doing in the preseason. I believe in our coach, I believe in our players, I believe in our young defense, I believe in underdogs, cause I been one my whole life. Let's not turn our backs on this team when they need us the most. We're not Falcons fans.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Me too. They didn't look good last night but they didn't look as pathetic as many are saying.

I saw some encouraging signs from a very very young team. We may have the youngest starting defense in the league when the season starts. And we're probably just as young on offense without Strief and Brees.

Pittsburgh has an explosive offense (3rd best in the NFL) and they targeted our rookie CB's through the air.

We'll be fine, although another injury to Armstead is as concerning as an injury to Brees. If we lose that cat, we're in big trouble.

"We've kept things very simple up to this point and so it's not like we're out there with a great game plan and trying to trick people and throwing the kitchen sink at them." -- Drew Brees.

I'm sticking with 10-6, but I am a little bit more nervous about it now.

I hope you're right but there was nothing I saw encouraging. I saw a team that looks exactly like they have the last two seasons. This is more than likely the third straight losing season for SP...How many does it take ? I sincerely hope you're right, but we are sloppy and play poorly.

Just out of curiosity was Pittsburgh able to execute because they were throwing the kitchen sink at us?

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I remember when faith was the only thing we had to go on. A busted arm that nobody wanted, a first time head coach (who by the way chose to be here after seeing the devastation), a patchwork defense, no home field, a next to last 7th rounder named Colston, basically an entire team where everyone else's castoffs came home to roost.

We also went 1-3 then in that preseason, and looked AWFUL in the Dallas game.

I don't much care what other teams are doing in the preseason. I believe in our coach, I believe in our players, I believe in our young defense, I believe in underdogs, cause I been one my whole life. Let's not turn our backs on this team when they need us the most. We're not Falcons fans.

sure if we didn't have the same coach with exactly the same results the last two seasons. your argument loses meaning because this is exactly what we have seen the previous two seasons under the same exact coach. So this is absolutely nothing like 2006, but I sure do wish you were right

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Me too. They didn't look good last night but they didn't look as pathetic as many are saying.

33 yards in the first quarter isn't pathetic?

WillMacKenzie · 08-27-2016, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

sure if we didn't have the same coach with exactly the same results the last two seasons. your argument loses meaning because this is exactly what we have seen the previous two seasons under the same exact coach. So this is absolutely nothing like 2006, but I sure do wish you were right

...but we got Rob'ed

The Dude · 08-27-2016, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Is there any REALISTIC move that can be made to get us a pass rusher and a guard ASAP?

Yes. Minnesota has several offensive lineman in a log jam and the dude in Dallas is still around. Idk about a pass rusher though.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

...but we got Rob'ed

I am talking about the offense. I could care less about the d right now. That's a whole other story. Our offense is sluggish and unable to move the ball. Go back and look at last season, the start of last season. Same ineffective ****:

409 yards
323 yards
380 yards
438 yards
386 yards
385 yards

And the thing is some of these games we weren't doing much offensively until the game was out of reach. So the other team is in prevent so of course you start moving the ball.

2011:
475 yards
382 yards
454 yards
503 yards
444 yards
453 yards

2009:
515
421
378
343
493
414

But by all means tell me how the offense is just as good as it always has been

The Dude · 08-27-2016, 11:53 AM

It's not that bad. Running game improved. You guys act like every game we are going to play is going to be against a super bowl team. Other teams suck and have it worse than we do.

WillMacKenzie · 08-27-2016, 12:19 PM

I never mentioned the offense specifically, because when you're ranked #1 and #2 in total offense the last two years respectively, and have landed outside the top 5 only once in a decade, I didn't think I had to.

You can compare 3-4 combined quarters through 3 preseason games to a decade of top 5 regular season offensive statistics if you'd like.

A more telling stat is that we were still nearly 8-8 with historically bad defense. If DA's blitzing schemes can be nearly as effective as GW's, 10-6 is a reasonable goal, being only 3 games better than 7-9. We can be even better, but I'm tempering my expectations as of late.

Trying to be encouraging, just accept it! Let your troubled mind bask in the tranquility of optimism

saintfan · 08-27-2016, 12:32 PM

08-27-2016, 11:25 AM	#41
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 I remember when faith was the only thing we had to go on. A busted arm that nobody wanted, a first time head coach (who by the way chose to be here after seeing the devastation), a patchwork defense, no home field, a next to last 7th rounder named Colston, basically an entire team where everyone else's castoffs came home to roost. We also went 1-3 then in that preseason, and looked AWFUL in the Dallas game. I don't much care what other teams are doing in the preseason. I believe in our coach, I believe in our players, I believe in our young defense, I believe in underdogs, cause I been one my whole life. Let's not turn our backs on this team when they need us the most. We're not Falcons fans. jnormand, Danno and mleg1972 like this.

08-27-2016, 11:27 AM	#42
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by Danno Me too. They didn't look good last night but they didn't look as pathetic as many are saying. I saw some encouraging signs from a very very young team. We may have the youngest starting defense in the league when the season starts. And we're probably just as young on offense without Strief and Brees. Pittsburgh has an explosive offense (3rd best in the NFL) and they targeted our rookie CB's through the air. We'll be fine, although another injury to Armstead is as concerning as an injury to Brees. If we lose that cat, we're in big trouble. "We've kept things very simple up to this point and so it's not like we're out there with a great game plan and trying to trick people and throwing the kitchen sink at them." -- Drew Brees. I'm sticking with 10-6, but I am a little bit more nervous about it now. I hope you're right but there was nothing I saw encouraging. I saw a team that looks exactly like they have the last two seasons. This is more than likely the third straight losing season for SP...How many does it take ? I sincerely hope you're right, but we are sloppy and play poorly. Just out of curiosity was Pittsburgh able to execute because they were throwing the kitchen sink at us?

08-27-2016, 11:32 AM	#43
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I remember when faith was the only thing we had to go on. A busted arm that nobody wanted, a first time head coach (who by the way chose to be here after seeing the devastation), a patchwork defense, no home field, a next to last 7th rounder named Colston, basically an entire team where everyone else's castoffs came home to roost. We also went 1-3 then in that preseason, and looked AWFUL in the Dallas game. I don't much care what other teams are doing in the preseason. I believe in our coach, I believe in our players, I believe in our young defense, I believe in underdogs, cause I been one my whole life. Let's not turn our backs on this team when they need us the most. We're not Falcons fans. sure if we didn't have the same coach with exactly the same results the last two seasons. your argument loses meaning because this is exactly what we have seen the previous two seasons under the same exact coach. So this is absolutely nothing like 2006, but I sure do wish you were right

08-27-2016, 11:33 AM	#44
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by Danno Me too. They didn't look good last night but they didn't look as pathetic as many are saying. 33 yards in the first quarter isn't pathetic? B_Dub_Saint, pherein, halloween 65 and 1 others like this.

08-27-2016, 11:33 AM	#45
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by spkb25 sure if we didn't have the same coach with exactly the same results the last two seasons. your argument loses meaning because this is exactly what we have seen the previous two seasons under the same exact coach. So this is absolutely nothing like 2006, but I sure do wish you were right ...but we got Rob'ed Rugby Saint II likes this.

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08-27-2016, 11:40 AM	#46
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Is there any REALISTIC move that can be made to get us a pass rusher and a guard ASAP? Yes. Minnesota has several offensive lineman in a log jam and the dude in Dallas is still around. Idk about a pass rusher though.
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08-27-2016, 11:51 AM	#47
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie ...but we got Rob'ed I am talking about the offense. I could care less about the d right now. That's a whole other story. Our offense is sluggish and unable to move the ball. Go back and look at last season, the start of last season. Same ineffective ****: 409 yards 323 yards 380 yards 438 yards 386 yards 385 yards And the thing is some of these games we weren't doing much offensively until the game was out of reach. So the other team is in prevent so of course you start moving the ball. 2011: 475 yards 382 yards 454 yards 503 yards 444 yards 453 yards 2009: 515 421 378 343 493 414 But by all means tell me how the offense is just as good as it always has been pherein and WhoDatFan26 like this.
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08-27-2016, 11:53 AM	#48
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 It's not that bad. Running game improved. You guys act like every game we are going to play is going to be against a super bowl team. Other teams suck and have it worse than we do.
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08-27-2016, 12:19 PM	#49
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 I never mentioned the offense specifically, because when you're ranked #1 and #2 in total offense the last two years respectively, and have landed outside the top 5 only once in a decade, I didn't think I had to. You can compare 3-4 combined quarters through 3 preseason games to a decade of top 5 regular season offensive statistics if you'd like. A more telling stat is that we were still nearly 8-8 with historically bad defense. If DA's blitzing schemes can be nearly as effective as GW's, 10-6 is a reasonable goal, being only 3 games better than 7-9. We can be even better, but I'm tempering my expectations as of late. Trying to be encouraging, just accept it! Let your troubled mind bask in the tranquility of optimism Danno, AsylumGuido and frydaddy like this.

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