Are the Saints Player Personnel Soft Under Payton?

vpheughan · 08-28-2016, 08:50 AM

Moose & Squirrel

jeanpierre · 08-28-2016, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Moose & Squirrel

jnormand · 08-28-2016, 09:25 AM

Guys cmon now! Everyone is either in full out panic mode or completely blissfully hopeful (which is where I prefer to stay). All I'm saying is this: Let's just wait until week 3 or 4 to seriously make a conclusion about this team.

Maybe the Saints will suck big, fat donkey nuts. Or maybe the lines solidify in the coming weeks and they put a good team out there.

All I'm saying is that I prefer to wait and see what the team can do in the regular season before passing my judgement.

But I'd like to say, that even tho I don't agree with some of you, at least not yet, I still respect your opinions and look forward to seeing you all in the game day chat.

I still believe there's a chance. And I believe in Coach P, DA and this team.

Yay for optimism!

K Major · 08-28-2016, 11:18 AM

Soft.

Rugby Saint II · 08-28-2016, 03:33 PM

We haven't recruited a nasty lineman like Carl Nicks since Payton came on board. I think we need a pancake flattening, defensive line pummeling, in your face nasty offensive lineman. I'm hoping that Fairley is going to bring that edge to the defensive line.

K Major · 08-28-2016, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We haven't recruited a nasty lineman like Carl Nicks since Payton came on board.

The likes of Carl Nicks, Jahri Evans and Ben Grubbs had me spoiled for years.

jeanpierre · 08-28-2016, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The likes of Carl Nicks, Jahri Evans and Ben Grubbs had me spoiled for years.

I would agree with Nicks and Evans; Grubbs was an overpaid, underwhelming player who'd I definitely characterize as soft...

Sproles' last season, Saints hosting the Dolphins, Grubbs got thrown around like a toy in that game...

It was an eye-opening game for me because it showed how important "the Sproles Safety Valve" was to Drew Brees and the offense and masked deficiencies in our offensive line even then...

vpheughan · 08-28-2016, 03:41 PM

Right after they draft "A stud kicker"

lee909 · 08-28-2016, 08:42 PM

He was still a upgrade on what we have now. Not a patch on Nicks though

jeanpierre · 08-28-2016, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

He was still a upgrade on what we have now. Not a patch on Nicks though

Grubbs? No way; you had younger, better offensive around him...

There was a reason why the Ravens let him walk; they knew he was leaning on those around him, not pulling his weight...

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08-28-2016, 08:50 AM	#1
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08-28-2016, 12:02 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Are the Saints Player Personnel Soft Under Payton? Originally Posted by vpheughan Moose & Squirrel

08-28-2016, 09:25 AM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,779	Re: Are the Saints Player Personnel Soft Under Payton? Guys cmon now! Everyone is either in full out panic mode or completely blissfully hopeful (which is where I prefer to stay). All I'm saying is this: Let's just wait until week 3 or 4 to seriously make a conclusion about this team. Maybe the Saints will suck big, fat donkey nuts. Or maybe the lines solidify in the coming weeks and they put a good team out there. All I'm saying is that I prefer to wait and see what the team can do in the regular season before passing my judgement. But I'd like to say, that even tho I don't agree with some of you, at least not yet, I still respect your opinions and look forward to seeing you all in the game day chat. I still believe there's a chance. And I believe in Coach P, DA and this team. Yay for optimism! skymike and Utah_Saint like this.

08-28-2016, 11:18 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Are the Saints Player Personnel Soft Under Payton? Soft.

08-28-2016, 03:33 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,191	Re: Are the Saints Player Personnel Soft Under Payton? We haven't recruited a nasty lineman like Carl Nicks since Payton came on board. I think we need a pancake flattening, defensive line pummeling, in your face nasty offensive lineman. I'm hoping that Fairley is going to bring that edge to the defensive line.

08-28-2016, 03:42 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Are the Saints Player Personnel Soft Under Payton? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We haven't recruited a nasty lineman like Carl Nicks since Payton came on board. The likes of Carl Nicks, Jahri Evans and Ben Grubbs had me spoiled for years. dizzle88 likes this.

08-28-2016, 08:40 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Are the Saints Player Personnel Soft Under Payton? Originally Posted by K Major The likes of Carl Nicks, Jahri Evans and Ben Grubbs had me spoiled for years. I would agree with Nicks and Evans; Grubbs was an overpaid, underwhelming player who'd I definitely characterize as soft... Sproles' last season, Saints hosting the Dolphins, Grubbs got thrown around like a toy in that game... It was an eye-opening game for me because it showed how important "the Sproles Safety Valve" was to Drew Brees and the offense and masked deficiencies in our offensive line even then...

08-28-2016, 03:41 PM	#8
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08-28-2016, 08:42 PM	#9
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Are the Saints Player Personnel Soft Under Payton? He was still a upgrade on what we have now. Not a patch on Nicks though

08-28-2016, 08:53 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Are the Saints Player Personnel Soft Under Payton? Originally Posted by lee909 He was still a upgrade on what we have now. Not a patch on Nicks though Grubbs? No way; you had younger, better offensive around him... There was a reason why the Ravens let him walk; they knew he was leaning on those around him, not pulling his weight...

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