Kruger set to visit Saints

burningmetal · 08-31-2016, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Oh he does 30-35 tackles and 3-4 sacks we can get that from our guys already is my point....whats the point in bringing in someone who is going to be less than or equal to your current players at that position?....he isn't giving us 8-10 sacks plus pressures guaranteed

He had a down year on a bad team. He had 11 sacks the year before, and I'm not believing he lost that physical ability in one year. And even his stats from last year are double what McCain has done in TWO years, in terms of sacks. Triple or quadruple in tackles (I can't remember off hand the number of tackles McCain has, but it's low). I'm not saying Kruger would come in and be an all-pro. I'm saying he's better than a bunch of guys who have barely played yet, and some who haven't even been playing the game, at any level, for very long. You got to have someone around to take the pressure off the unproven, and it's not like we're going to go get a superstar right before the season starts.

K Major · 08-31-2016, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

He was cut because of the players behind him potential and the lack of production on his part...If he would've gotten another 11 sack season this year he would not have been cut

I was sharing a article from the Dawgpound that you may hadn't had a chance to read.

As for Cleveland and evaluating players ....they hadn't had much to write home about over the last 40 years so take the Kruger release with a grain of salt.

lee909 · 08-31-2016, 08:37 AM

The Browns are ckeanung house they swapped punters with Carolina so they could get a 4th round pick added

Also i wouldn't trust their evaluations on players. Lance Moore and Willie Snead were cut by the Browns

Rell&Gold · 08-31-2016, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

He had a down year on a bad team. He had 11 sacks the year before, and I'm not believing he lost that physical ability in one year. And even his stats from last year are double what McCain has done in TWO years, in terms of sacks. Triple or quadruple in tackles (I can't remember off hand the number of tackles McCain has, but it's low). I'm not saying Kruger would come in and be an all-pro. I'm saying he's better than a bunch of guys who have barely played yet, and some who haven't even been playing the game, at any level, for very long. You got to have someone around to take the pressure off the unproven, and it's not like we're going to go get a superstar right before the season starts.

I established the 1 year removed from 11 sacks & 5-7 sacks wouldve been a down year not 2.5 and 27 tackles & I was referencing Kassim not Mccain Kassim had 5 sacks last year and didnt start he(Paul) started all but one game it might be a good move if our interior line can compliment him well buI dont realyl see him being that significant to us JMO

Rell&Gold · 08-31-2016, 09:32 AM

And Im not insinuating that we would be able to get a superstar, Im simply saying I feel the move is waste because his production we already have 2.5 SACKS & 30 tackles come on! If hes coming off the bench cool but not as a starter

Rell&Gold · 08-31-2016, 09:34 AM

Alot of teams let gems walk, They also have Josh Gordon the Rookie whos hurt at the moment & Pryor who looks the part

Rell&Gold · 08-31-2016, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

The Browns are ckeanung house they swapped punters with Carolina so they could get a 4th round pick added

Also i wouldn't trust their evaluations on players. Lance Moore and Willie Snead were cut by the Browns

You could say the same for us

K Major · 08-31-2016, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

And Im not insinuating that we would be able to get a superstar, Im simply saying I feel the move is waste because his production we already have 2.5 SACKS & 30 tackles come on! If hes coming off the bench cool but not as a starter

Rell,

I can understand you not liking the signing but did we just get worse by adding Kruger to the roster?

lee909 · 08-31-2016, 09:49 AM

The mans a fighter

Kruger went through two serious childhood accidents.[8] He lost a kidney and his spleen and almost died in his Uncle's jeep accident at age 13.[9] In college at Salt Lake City, Utah, (January 29, 2008) a street stabbing left him with a collapsed lung and a 6.5 inch scar on his chest. A screwdriver was driven through the back of a Ute teammate and brass knuckles were used to break the nose and shatter the cheekbone of his younger brother. The fight left Kruger with "life-threatening injuries" that required nearly 50 staples to close the incisions made during a four-hour surgery

burningmetal · 08-31-2016, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

I established the 1 year removed from 11 sacks & 5-7 sacks wouldve been a down year not 2.5 and 27 tackles & I was referencing Kassim not Mccain Kassim had 5 sacks last year and didnt start he(Paul) started all but one game it might be a good move if our interior line can compliment him well buI dont realyl see him being that significant to us JMO

What are you talking about? I don't know or care who you were referencing. I was making my own point about McCain and the lack of experience/production with a bunch of projects. They needed help, and now it looks like they got it.

It is your opinion that going from 11 sacks to 5-7 sacks is a down year. I'm giving my opinion. A down year is a down year. It's one year removed, either way, and I just don't believe that he suddenly lost it. He might not come here and get double digits, but if he can be somewhere around 8, that's a heck of a lot better then you're likely to get from anyone else not named Cam Jordan. Edebali and Gwacham have shown their flashes, but they are too raw to be relied on still.

08-31-2016, 03:38 AM	#41
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kruger set to visit Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Oh he does 30-35 tackles and 3-4 sacks we can get that from our guys already is my point....whats the point in bringing in someone who is going to be less than or equal to your current players at that position?....he isn't giving us 8-10 sacks plus pressures guaranteed He had a down year on a bad team. He had 11 sacks the year before, and I'm not believing he lost that physical ability in one year. And even his stats from last year are double what McCain has done in TWO years, in terms of sacks. Triple or quadruple in tackles (I can't remember off hand the number of tackles McCain has, but it's low). I'm not saying Kruger would come in and be an all-pro. I'm saying he's better than a bunch of guys who have barely played yet, and some who haven't even been playing the game, at any level, for very long. You got to have someone around to take the pressure off the unproven, and it's not like we're going to go get a superstar right before the season starts.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

08-31-2016, 08:06 AM	#42
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kruger set to visit Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold He was cut because of the players behind him potential and the lack of production on his part...If he would've gotten another 11 sack season this year he would not have been cut I was sharing a article from the Dawgpound that you may hadn't had a chance to read. As for Cleveland and evaluating players ....they hadn't had much to write home about over the last 40 years so take the Kruger release with a grain of salt. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

08-31-2016, 08:37 AM	#43
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,818 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Kruger set to visit Saints The Browns are ckeanung house they swapped punters with Carolina so they could get a 4th round pick added Also i wouldn't trust their evaluations on players. Lance Moore and Willie Snead were cut by the Browns RockyMountainSaint, leilung, mleg1972 and 2 others like this.

08-31-2016, 09:28 AM	#44
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Kruger set to visit Saints Originally Posted by burningmetal He had a down year on a bad team. He had 11 sacks the year before, and I'm not believing he lost that physical ability in one year. And even his stats from last year are double what McCain has done in TWO years, in terms of sacks. Triple or quadruple in tackles (I can't remember off hand the number of tackles McCain has, but it's low). I'm not saying Kruger would come in and be an all-pro. I'm saying he's better than a bunch of guys who have barely played yet, and some who haven't even been playing the game, at any level, for very long. You got to have someone around to take the pressure off the unproven, and it's not like we're going to go get a superstar right before the season starts. I established the 1 year removed from 11 sacks & 5-7 sacks wouldve been a down year not 2.5 and 27 tackles & I was referencing Kassim not Mccain Kassim had 5 sacks last year and didnt start he(Paul) started all but one game it might be a good move if our interior line can compliment him well buI dont realyl see him being that significant to us JMO

08-31-2016, 09:32 AM	#45
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Kruger set to visit Saints And Im not insinuating that we would be able to get a superstar, Im simply saying I feel the move is waste because his production we already have 2.5 SACKS & 30 tackles come on! If hes coming off the bench cool but not as a starter

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08-31-2016, 09:34 AM	#46
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Kruger set to visit Saints Alot of teams let gems walk, They also have Josh Gordon the Rookie whos hurt at the moment & Pryor who looks the part

08-31-2016, 09:35 AM	#47
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Kruger set to visit Saints Originally Posted by lee909 The Browns are ckeanung house they swapped punters with Carolina so they could get a 4th round pick added Also i wouldn't trust their evaluations on players. Lance Moore and Willie Snead were cut by the Browns You could say the same for us

08-31-2016, 09:39 AM	#48
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kruger set to visit Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold And Im not insinuating that we would be able to get a superstar, Im simply saying I feel the move is waste because his production we already have 2.5 SACKS & 30 tackles come on! If hes coming off the bench cool but not as a starter Rell, I can understand you not liking the signing but did we just get worse by adding Kruger to the roster?

08-31-2016, 09:49 AM	#49
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,818 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Kruger set to visit Saints The mans a fighter Kruger went through two serious childhood accidents.[8] He lost a kidney and his spleen and almost died in his Uncle's jeep accident at age 13.[9] In college at Salt Lake City, Utah, (January 29, 2008) a street stabbing left him with a collapsed lung and a 6.5 inch scar on his chest. A screwdriver was driven through the back of a Ute teammate and brass knuckles were used to break the nose and shatter the cheekbone of his younger brother. The fight left Kruger with "life-threatening injuries" that required nearly 50 staples to close the incisions made during a four-hour surgery
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08-31-2016, 11:12 AM	#50
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kruger set to visit Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold I established the 1 year removed from 11 sacks & 5-7 sacks wouldve been a down year not 2.5 and 27 tackles & I was referencing Kassim not Mccain Kassim had 5 sacks last year and didnt start he(Paul) started all but one game it might be a good move if our interior line can compliment him well buI dont realyl see him being that significant to us JMO What are you talking about? I don't know or care who you were referencing. I was making my own point about McCain and the lack of experience/production with a bunch of projects. They needed help, and now it looks like they got it. It is your opinion that going from 11 sacks to 5-7 sacks is a down year. I'm giving my opinion. A down year is a down year. It's one year removed, either way, and I just don't believe that he suddenly lost it. He might not come here and get double digits, but if he can be somewhere around 8, that's a heck of a lot better then you're likely to get from anyone else not named Cam Jordan. Edebali and Gwacham have shown their flashes, but they are too raw to be relied on still.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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