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ESPN’s Todd McShay wrote that he is “one of the better inside linebacker prospects in recent memory,” and he has drawn comparisons to the likes of Patrick Willis.

Reuben has my full, undivided attention.

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It's time stop trotting out crap at middle linebacker and wondering why our defense is always bad. Craig Robertson is a very good player, but he's a weak side 'backer playing out of position. Stephone Anthony has very low football IQ and is a good case of what happens when you fall in love with a guy's SPARQ score and draft him two rounds early.

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I do not see a Patrick Willis type of player in the draft. sorry Todd

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Yes, but could not catch at the East-West Shrine game today. Scratch

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Man, did you sum it up!

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Foster is pretty damn good and though I think we could wait early in the draft on LB based on our needs, there's no way we can afford to let him pass at No. 11...

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IF we land Tomsula as DL coach I'm definately looking at NT. Watching the east west shrine game a Florida Gator caught my eye. Tomsula likes to crush the middle and this kid can crush.

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A lotta, lotta defense here. Are you thinking we'll land some oL studs in free agency?

Still don't see Peppers as any kind of fit with us.

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If we're moving on from Kenny V, he would be the replacement...

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No way I'd take Peppers at #11. Great athlete at Michigan will not compute to a good NFL Pro prospect.

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Only one RG on the list? I think Peat will solidify the LG spot for years with the ability to swing outside to LT if necessary. I don't believe that Peat has the foot work to handle the right side. He looks good when he's on the left side.jmho

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Keep a lazy eye on Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU.

I think he is off the board by day 2.

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Good stuff JP

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Peppers is an option but the draft is pretty deep at SS
Jamal Adams SS LSU 5115 211 4.54 #33 Jr

after day one
Justin Evans SS/FS/CB Texas A&M 6001 195 4.52 #14 Jr
Quin Blanding SS/FS Virginia 6011 205 4.58 #3 Jr
Tedric Thompson SS Colorado 5115 203 4.56 #9 Sr
Nate Gerry SS Nebraska 6015 220 4.58 #25 Sr
Obi Melifonwu SS/FS/OLB UConn 6032 216 4.58? #20 rSr

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...Defensive Linemen

DE Daeshon Hall, Texas A&M
DE Jordan Willis, Kansas State
DE Josh Carraway, TCU
DE Keionta Davis, Chattanooga
DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova
DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson
DT Dalvin Tomlinson, Alabama
DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA
DT Montravius Adams, Auburn
DT Tanzel Smart, Tulane...

...Linebackers

ILB Alex Anzalone, Florida
ILB Ben Boulware, Clemson
ILB Duke Riley, LSU
OLB Ryan Anderson, Alabama
OLB Tyus Bowser, Houston...

...Defensive Backs

CB Cam Sutton, Tennessee
CB Corn Elder, Miami
CB Damontae Kazee, San Diego State
CB Ezra Robinson, Tennessee State
CB Marquez White, Florida State
CB Tre’Davious White, LSU
S Johnathan Ford, Auburn
S Jordan Sterns, Oklahoma State
S Justin Evans, Texas A&M
S Rayshawn Jenkins, Miami...

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A couple of thoughts...

Daeshon Hall takes too many plays off and what numbers he had were benefit of playing opposite Myles Garrett...

Jordan Willis currently has a third round grade because he needs to add another twenty pounds to be a 3 down DE...

If Tanoh Kpassagnon plays well against the comp, I think he moves into the second round and is definitely a target for us...

Dalvin Tomlinson? are we going back to a 3-4? Think Akiem Hicks type; but, how good is he without talent around him?

Anzalone definitely checks the boxes, except one, can he stay healthy? Ellerbe should teach us that concern...

Ben Boulware is a fighter, really like the kid; but he's a two down back with athletic limitations for the NFL...

One of the defensive backs that you should highlight and watch is Damontae Kazee of San Diego St - some scouts think if all breaks his way, he could jump into the second round...

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I look within our division and size for CB is #1. Damontae Kazee at 5102 needs some serious hops and long arms to defend the WR in our division.

Saints are loaded with talented short CB

Saints must get bigger at the second level

Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M 6052 260 4.78 #10 Sr
inconsistent in pass-rush production. ? injury history is more a curiosity at this point. When he was the man he put up a seriously good performance. Which brings me right back to what you said. Where was he before? Shoulder injury worse me.

Dalvin Tomlinson DT Alabama 6022 305 5.14 #54 rSr
An underrated key reserve steadying force along the defensive front Flexibility, toughness and explosiveness, good run stuffer with some pass rush skills as a passes defense knows how to get his hands up and knocked down passes. He’s not going to give you much as a pass rusher due to his limited athleticism and range, but Tomlinson can two-gap effectively and hold the point of attack against the run.

A later round sand in the pants developmental NT/DT to keep an eye on is

Ralph Green III DT Indiana 6036 320 5.14 #93 rSr
a lot of ability and offers a good degree of upside potential

Tell me what we are doing at ILB grrr till then any and all options are on the board

Tanoh Kpassagnon DE Villanova 6062 278 4.87 #92 Sr
raw, but that the skill set is there with a lot of upside to develop. five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 defense? exposed Bama OT Robinson to be the mediocre tackle prospect he really is. outside bend, quickness, quick hands, and finishing ability. Special teams demon in the middle of the line?

Jordan Sterns SS/FS Oklahoma State 6002 200 4.55 Sr
Want a safety that not only plays the run well but has solid ball hawking skill set?

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This sounds really freaking good... courtesy of

http://www.canalstreetchronicles.com...team-standouts

DE, Tanoh Kpassagnon

Kpassagnon has been “my guy” ever since another writer here at CSC and I stumbled upon his film during a study session. I wanted to wait until I saw him in person to decide if what I had thought before was true. My conclusion: He is the real deal.

Measuring in at over 6’6 and 280 lbs Kpassagnon looks like he was built out of granite. Lining up primarily as a wide 9 or 6/7 on the weak side (pass rushing side), Kpassagnon spent the day going against one of the highest rated OL in the draft in Forrest Lamp. Showing great bend considering his size, he was able to get under the much shorter Lamp (6’3) to get strong leverage more plays than not.

His most impressive play of the day also comes with video footage. From the defensive end position in this drill, he drives back Lamp and tosses him to the side like a rag doll. Tanoh still is a raw talent. He has the athletic and physical ability to put himself on the same level as the 1st round grades in this draft. The catch is he is still very raw.

Going to school at Villanova means this is one of the first looks anyone is getting to see of him going against higher talent tackles. As of the first day, he’s catching a lot of eyes. Several teams interviewed him today, following his performance.

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I'd be more impressed if it wasn't coming from CSC.

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I fully believe after the senior bowl, Tanoh Kpassagnon wont get out of the 2nd round. one of his 1on1's against Lamp was nasty. He's making himself some money this week & is definitely a day two target for me. I wouldnt be surprised if someone pulled the trigger at the end of the 1st...pass rusher is always in high demand and it doesnt hurt when you're 6'7/290lbs

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Not to bash Kpassagnon but that play is just as much Lamp putting himself in a very bad position. He opens his hips too much and plays high, at the end his feet stops and he leans forward and that is when Kpassagnon tosses him It does not take much effort at that time.

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Kpassagnon sounds French.....so there's that. And he looked pretty darn good at the first couple of practices. I can't wait to see more of him on film.

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At this point, I don't care if his name is Buddha Jones, can he put the quarterback on his back and set the edge?

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This is my favorite prospect for the Saints this year and is currently slotted to be there when we pick in the second round...

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No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.

2nd round talent? I hadn't seen much on Watt last season.
Share your thoughts.

Side note: I love his size at the LB position.

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Major, Watt originally started as a Tight End, so he's athletic with good agility, hands; Badgers had need at OLB/DE, he made the move, only playing position a couple of years; had injuries early on, but showed he's more than healthy, recovered; based on his progression and improvement, most scouting reports feel he still has a high ceiling; common scouting report comments refer to his passion for the football like his siblings; constant evaluation after each other's games via late calls into the night, high traffic texting - not a bad resource to have, a good tight-knit family; he can play as a 3-4 or 4-3 OLB or has the frame to add 25 lbs and play 4-3 weakside DE; already an effective pass rusher despite limited experience and moves, so he'll need to continue to develop moves to become special at the NFL level; does a great job against the run by engaging blockers and using his long arms to avoid getting jammed, often doing the jamming; many feel he can be a starter by the end of his first season in either front; smart player who adapts to in-game to situations and will make plays as attested by his 2016 numbers of 63 TK, 15.5 TKL, 11.5 SK, 4 PD, 2 FF, and 1 INT/TD - these are not fluke numbers. Watt is rated as one of the top edge rushers in this year's NFL Draft and is expected to be an early round selection.

If he tests poorly at the underoos olympics, I'd ignore because he plays faster than he'll time with great instincts; for me, Watt reminds me alot of a playmaking Scott Fujita (if he really works and gets in the right fit, could be every bit as good as a Jack Lambert) and I think he's got the athleticism, just needs experience in pass coverage and his most impact for the Saints will be as a strongside OLB in D.A.'s 4-3 front as a three-down linebacker...JP

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I like Ethan Pocic in the second. I hope he's still there when we pick.

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Could you imagine we signed RG Kevin Zeitler and LG Andrew Norwell and had Pocic as our reserve? He could backup either guard, center, and right tackle!

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Ethan Pocic C/OG/OT LSU 6056 309 5.18 Sr #77 Sr

HGT 6060
WGT 307
HAND 10 1/8
ARM 32 5/8
WING 80 1/4

Mr Versility. Can play all five offensive line positions. abilities ‘in the phone booth’ stuffing nose tackles. relentless pass blocker.. keeps his head on a swivel. scout quotes: “Pocic is extremely intelligent,” “He’s tough and strong". "He may not be an elite physical talent, obviously, but he does have elite size for guard or center.”
Plug and play RG day 1? Solid assumption and a safe pick in 2

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He is just like his brother. Freaking reckless wrecking ball. A joy to watch.
only concern is he has always played in 34. Switch should not be that big of an issue. But being a 34 coming out of college with his measurable, I see him as a hot commodity unless he tanks at the combine.

Keep an eye on

Vince Biegel OLB/ILB Wisconsin 6035 245 4.75 #47 rSr
"A clean medical check on that "cracked foot" during the draft process figures to be crucial to his stock"
Lacks the name reconnection but this kid can play.

Vince Biegel is to T.J. Watt as Ryan Anderson is to Tim Williams

If the meds check out I would feel comfortable with our OLB being
Ryan Anderson
Vince Biegel

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That's a big ugly wet dream!

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From this list, I'd like to watch and learn more about:

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 276 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) OL Ethan Pocic, LSU; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 309 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 285 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) LG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.

No. 185 (R6, 10) LB Tyus Bowser, Houston; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 240 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Hardy Nickerson, Illinois/Cal; Height: 6’ 1”, Weight: 240 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.