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I have to go back and look at him some more. I watch a couple of games and did not see what every one was so high on. maybe just not his better games.

Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston 6021 240 4.67 #81 Sr
HGT WGT HAND ARM WING
6024 244 10 1/8 33 78 1/8

I am also looking back at the senior bowl freak

Haason Reddick, ILB, Temple 6014 237 4.54 #58 rSr
HGT WGT HAND ARM WING
6014 237 10 3/8 32 1/8 76 3/4

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I really don't know much about Bowser. He's being compared to Eli Harold.

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I may be in the minority here, but i would not mind at all if we went back to back LB in rounds 1&2, more specifically...

1. Reuben Foster, Alabama
2. Hasson Reddick, Temple

our speed/talent would upgrade tremendously at LB. Talk about having two impact playmakers with the ability to quickly diagnose, drop in coverage & effectively pressure the QB.

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There was a running back that looked good also.

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ok spent the night chatting and watching this kid and here is what i saw

Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston 6021 240 4.67 #81 Sr
HGT 6024
WGT 244
HAND 10 1/8
ARM 33
WING 78 1/8


Flashes and a ton of them. No one I talked with could point a complete game he was able to flash together. Some one will over draft him I am sure. as high as round 3? maybe just on athleticism and build. As far as based on his overall play? I see why he faded as the season went on. 6/7 IMO. Question to be answer is how solid is his floor? how high is is ceiling? does he have the football IQ to put it all together? He has a lot of money riding on the rest of the off season beauty pageants. More importantly his interviews will make him or break him. Should be fun to watch

If we are to reach in any round or package up picks and roll the dice on a LB and you are willing to hold your breath

Haason Reddick, DE/OLB Temple 6014 237 4.54 #58 rSr
HGT 6014
WGT 237
HAND 10 3/8
ARM 32 1/8
WING 76 3/4


The DE/OLB “tweener” label is blown to hell and back. After the senior bowl you are comfortable with him as a 43 WLB and are now toying with the idea he can fill in the slot on a TE and/or a RB. Added depth at safety is not out the question is either. So much for the possible mid round steal label. I have to watch more of him. So far he is a blast to watch. More than a couple of people I talked with had him stashed as the steal later. They were not sharing him for sure till the senior bowl invite. They all wanted to see if he had coverage skills at this level. He played RB and CB in high school. Well secrets out he is a solid gamble with huge upside. I did not know he was a walk on either. The story line with this kid is well worth the read. Rudy goes pro

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I still like Rueben. Houston had a tough time beating a few teams because they allowed too many points. Would really love to have Quincy from Florida or Marshon from Ohio State both CB's

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What is Reddicks projected round.

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He was a late 3/4 guy. Now he may have broken the 1st round ceiling

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Keeps tabs on who the saints like and then put them in order because the highest one is who they will pick. It's BPA after all. Look at those teams and see if you can see if they "fit the saints."

Kind of why I don't know if I will do scouting this year because the FO picks based on BPA more than need. Say for instance Peppers is who we need and the BPA is McCaffery.

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Peppers is not who we need!

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I was using an example

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Or better yet, the best way to do this is analyze each top player for each position and so on and rank according to that.

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For the first time since we had Fujita-Vilma-Shanle do we have some real talent accumulated at linebacker (Ellerbe-Robertson-Stupar-Anthony-Kikaha)...

It'll be a dynamic, versatile group that will allow us to put multiple fronts us and Foster would definitely be an upgrade to this group, as well as depth...

But I don't think we add another LB unless we move Kikaha or maybe Anthony to a team with a 3-4 front to find a better match for D.A.'s scheme...

The two linebackers in the draft I think could have an impact on this defense are ILB Reuben Foster and/or OLB T.J. Watt...

By adding Foster, we could have him at the MIKE, shifting Anthony to the outside and bringing Kikaha in situational pass rushes...

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 51 - Reuben Foster, 52 - Craig Robertson

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

By adding Watt, Anthony would compete with Robertson for the MIKE and you could still have Kikaha on situational pass rushes...

SLB (2) 57 - T.J. Watt, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 52 - Craig Robertson

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

Two other points I'd like to make - first, despite the effort to play Kikaha at WDE, he doesn't have the physical size to set the edge as a DE and will continue to be on IR if that happens; second, we just added a terrific LBers Coack in Mike Nolan who's coached some of the greatest LBers in the history of the game and I believe will get Anthony turned around as a MIKE LBer, if the team chooses to go in that direction after having invested a first round pick to do just that...

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Desmond King is a name that keeps popping up - and I don't get it as he got used in Mobile...

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Last fake draft I saw had Foster as the #2 pick...

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Is this the kid who many scouts think will be re aligned to play the SS position (due to his lack of burst/explosion at CB) at the NFL level?

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I'm doing this but with a short list of each position. As workouts and combines will bring in more names that they would prefer. When combines/workouts begin I will have to do a new ranking. I'm going 5 of each for defense positions and oline and 3 of each for the TE, RB, WR positions(even if not needed). Any names shown low in combine scores taken off the list.

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Priority FA? LMAO is it to early?

Actually there is one RB I really like that is getting absolutely no chatter which is a good thing. Needs some coaching. In a year on the PS you might have found yourself a steal. He is one of my top diamond in the rough players.

Chris Carson RB Oklahoma State 6005 215 4.52 #32 Sr
Square peg round hole? Great power, determination and athleticism. Solid option out of the backfield 5.8 YPC on 115 attempts during his three years. A spread offense may have not been the smartest choice for him. May not be an every down back but has the potential to be a solid part of a rotation.

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Two rumors from WalterFootball...

"Sources with the Saints say their first-round pick might come down to the best available player at edge rusher or cover corner." - Charlie Campbell

"While it is very early in the process, here are five teams that are showing a lot of interest in emerging Connecticut safety Melifonwu: Seattle Seahawks, Houston Texans, New Orleans Saints, Philadelphia Eagles, and Carolina Panthers." - Charlie Campbell

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Scary when a guy goes from 3/4/5/6 to 2/3 prospect. Did he really answer all the questions in one week? I am good with a solid 3rd at this point. A second? not sure if I am ready to go there yet

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I so far have looked at two ILBs and it appears that Foster is the clear top tier option. I saw a lot of flaws with McMillan(think his ranking is due to OSU and being on a defense with other good players). I will only look at one more and that will be Jarrad Davis.

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I like foster but would rather a CB Marshon or that guy from Florida. I think we should alternate CB then DE throughout the draft

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Yeah I am pretty sold on ILB Foster - I think we move up to 7 or 9 to snag him.

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I'm curious to hear your take on Jarrad Davis. I haven't looked at him too closely myself but I'm hearing lots of buzz about him being underrated. If we had a shot at him in the 2nd round I wonder if it would be worth passing on Foster in the 1st for a CB or DE.

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We had a shot at Deion Jones and Kwon Alexander and passed on both, they both had excellent rookie seasons and one is a major reason his team are in the super bowl.

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A CB in the 1st round? ... he better be Marcus Peters type talent and production coming out of college. I'd rather a pass rusher or LB (Beasley, Bosa, Leonard Williams, Shane Ray) at pick #11.

There is Cam, Rankins, Fairley, (UFA) and everyone else. This defense is in desperate need of play makers.

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I keep coming back to this quote on Washington CB Sidney Jones from his NFL.com draft profile:

"I think he picked up all of (Marcus) Peters' good traits as a player without the personality defects. He marries that great FBI (football intelligence) with an explosive close-out and that will win in the pros just like it wins in college. You will always wish he was 198 pounds, but he won't be." -- NFC East regional scout

That's hard praise to ignore.

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I'll get to it sometime tomorrow. I have schoolwork now.

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Jarrad Davis ILB/OLB Florida 6012 238 4.78 #40 Sr
good speed great intensity. great blitzer, sideline to sideline in the run game but struggles stack and shedding blocks resulting in over pursue and being a bit out of control at times. better suited in a 4-3. .He's powerful at the point of attack, projecting as a quality run-stuffing presence on the inside, but is also productive as a rusher and in coverage.

He is a system limited and the way the sainst jump from 34 to 43 worries me. DE and DT upgrades are needed to keep him clean.

What did you dig up Will?

couple of late rounders of possible interest
Langi Harvey ILB/SLB/FB BYU 6015 252 4.77 #21 rSr
Jimmy Gilbert WLB/ILB/ Colorado 6036 225 4.74 #98 Sr
Marquel Lee ILB/OLB Wake Forest 6026 240 4.76 #8 Sr

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I love Jarrad Davis' game. has some similarities to Foster, but the biggest knock on him is health. He was injured a lot at Florida, but i'd absolutely select him in the 2nd round if we go DL or CB in the 1st. reminds me a little of Kwon Alexander.

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It's hard to decide who is second between him and McMillan. Davis had speed certainly but he could not wrap up. Too often in the two games I saw he lets players run right by him, he had a sack on the Bama QB and let him get away. Also McMillan has been coached by Urban Meyer. Have to think McMillan will adapt quicker. Also, the fact that Davis has been hurt on top of us already having injury issues, that's more of a reason to keep him third. He's got to show something in the combine but he may not be able to participate. But I am not for taking him in the first two rounds.

1.Reuben Foster

2.Raekwon McMillan

3.Jarrad Davis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=Xwzz98Eh00Y

As we saw with Rankins last year, a lot cannot be judged from college performance. That's why things will change with the combines.

OLB is next.

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Raekwon McMillan really does not impress me. he is good but at the next level I am not as sold as most. Some one needs to sell me on him this high in the draft. He reminds me of Stephone Anthony. More of a read and react player than instinctual player like Foster and Davis. I feel the same way about Malik Hooker. Then again I like Gareon Conley over Marshon Lattimore for the same reasons. So I am opposite on almost all oSU players than what I read

Rankins excelled in the flashy stats as expected but his run defense has a long way to go. Same goes for Nick Fairley. their skill sets are pretty much the same. Both could use a run stuffing DT to help them out. Year one was about what expected. Can not wait to see if he can take that next step and hold up against the run better.