Playoff contenders

AsylumGuido · 09-06-2016, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Green Bay would be the only clear cut better team. Rams, Minn., Giants are on the same level if not a step ahead. Dallas, Dirty turds, Tampa and philly.....who the heck knows. All have the talent to win 10 games but the coaching of my 10 yr old sons tackle I team. Saints season will go as the o-line goes. Any decent play on the o-line that allows MI to run opens up the offense and allows Drew to throw for 5000+ again. I still see the Saints as a 4 to 6 win team. 2 great o-linemen can not make up for the other 3 trash.

So, what you are saying is that even with what is arguably a much improved defense and basically the same offensive line and an upgrade at WR with Thomas over a burnt out Colston, this team is one to three games worse than each of the past two years.

Impeccable logic. Pardon me if I don't buy into your vision.

voodooido · 09-06-2016, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So, what you are saying is that even with what is arguably a much improved defense and basically the same offensive line and an upgrade at WR with Thomas over a burnt out Colston, this team is one to three games worse than each of the past two years.

Impeccable logic. Pardon me if I don't buy into your vision.

I don't care what you buy. Defense looks better on paper. Until they play a game that counts it does not matter. Our o-line might be the worst in the league.

|Mitch| · 09-06-2016, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Our o-line might be the worst in the league.

Using the same logic: Until they play a game that counts, it does not matter.

AsylumGuido · 09-06-2016, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Using the same logic: Until they play a game that counts, it does not matter.

That's where the disconnect comes into play. He used no logic.

voodooido · 09-06-2016, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Using the same logic: Until they play a game that counts, it does not matter.

Same O-line as last year.

AsylumGuido · 09-06-2016, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I don't care what you buy. Defense looks better on paper. Until they play a game that counts it does not matter. Our o-line might be the worst in the league.

Exactly how many plays have you seen all five starters on the offensive line play a meaningful snap this season? For all of your possible knowledge they may be among the ten BEST lines in the league. You cannot know. All that you can prove is that you are a sour pessimist.

voodooido · 09-06-2016, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Exactly how many plays have you seen all five starters on the offensive line play a meaningful snap this season? For all of your possible knowledge they may be among the ten BEST lines in the league. You cannot know. All that you can prove is that you are a sour pessimist.

Guess you failed to watch a game last year because its the exact o-line that got Drew killed.

SAINTstunna · 09-06-2016, 02:30 PM

Too many questions about the SAINTS . . Offensive and defensive lines . . . real time action to see we are even better than the last few years (Im praying we are) but I cant worry about any other teams right now . ..

voodooido · 09-06-2016, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by SAINTstunna

Too many questions about the SAINTS . . Offensive and defensive lines . . . real time action to see we are even better than the last few years (Im praying we are) but I cant worry about any other teams right now . ..

I think we can all agree that we are thankful not to have Brandon Harris or Les Miles.....

Danno · 09-06-2016, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by SAINTstunna

Too many questions about the SAINTS . . Offensive and defensive lines . . . real time action to see we are even better than the last few years (Im praying we are) but I cant worry about any other teams right now . ..

Yep, but thats the point. Its pure speculation and we all know everything is on paper right now.

But based on what knowledge we have right now (additions, subtractions, strengths, weaknesses) we can reasonably predict that we're at least as good or better than most NFC teams right now.

It would be ridiculous to predict we'll be 16-0, and its equally ridiculous to predict we'll be 0-16.

If people have issues with speculating, they probably shouldn't open a speculation thread.

Its not a prediction if you wait until after the games are played.

09-06-2016, 11:27 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Playoff contenders Originally Posted by voodooido Green Bay would be the only clear cut better team. Rams, Minn., Giants are on the same level if not a step ahead. Dallas, Dirty turds, Tampa and philly.....who the heck knows. All have the talent to win 10 games but the coaching of my 10 yr old sons tackle I team. Saints season will go as the o-line goes. Any decent play on the o-line that allows MI to run opens up the offense and allows Drew to throw for 5000+ again. I still see the Saints as a 4 to 6 win team. 2 great o-linemen can not make up for the other 3 trash. So, what you are saying is that even with what is arguably a much improved defense and basically the same offensive line and an upgrade at WR with Thomas over a burnt out Colston, this team is one to three games worse than each of the past two years. Impeccable logic. Pardon me if I don't buy into your vision.

09-06-2016, 11:58 AM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Playoff contenders Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So, what you are saying is that even with what is arguably a much improved defense and basically the same offensive line and an upgrade at WR with Thomas over a burnt out Colston, this team is one to three games worse than each of the past two years. Impeccable logic. Pardon me if I don't buy into your vision. I don't care what you buy. Defense looks better on paper. Until they play a game that counts it does not matter. Our o-line might be the worst in the league.
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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Playoff contenders Originally Posted by voodooido Our o-line might be the worst in the league. Using the same logic: Until they play a game that counts, it does not matter. AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Playoff contenders Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Using the same logic: Until they play a game that counts, it does not matter. That's where the disconnect comes into play. He used no logic.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Playoff contenders Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Using the same logic: Until they play a game that counts, it does not matter. Same O-line as last year.
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09-06-2016, 01:32 PM	#7
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Playoff contenders Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly how many plays have you seen all five starters on the offensive line play a meaningful snap this season? For all of your possible knowledge they may be among the ten BEST lines in the league. You cannot know. All that you can prove is that you are a sour pessimist. Guess you failed to watch a game last year because its the exact o-line that got Drew killed.
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SAINTstunna 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SACRAMENTO, CA Posts: 249 Blog Entries: 9	Re: Playoff contenders Too many questions about the SAINTS . . Offensive and defensive lines . . . real time action to see we are even better than the last few years (Im praying we are) but I cant worry about any other teams right now . ..

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Playoff contenders Originally Posted by SAINTstunna Too many questions about the SAINTS . . Offensive and defensive lines . . . real time action to see we are even better than the last few years (Im praying we are) but I cant worry about any other teams right now . .. I think we can all agree that we are thankful not to have Brandon Harris or Les Miles.....
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Playoff contenders Originally Posted by SAINTstunna Too many questions about the SAINTS . . Offensive and defensive lines . . . real time action to see we are even better than the last few years (Im praying we are) but I cant worry about any other teams right now . .. Yep, but thats the point. Its pure speculation and we all know everything is on paper right now. But based on what knowledge we have right now (additions, subtractions, strengths, weaknesses) we can reasonably predict that we're at least as good or better than most NFC teams right now. It would be ridiculous to predict we'll be 16-0, and its equally ridiculous to predict we'll be 0-16. If people have issues with speculating, they probably shouldn't open a speculation thread. Its not a prediction if you wait until after the games are played. WillMacKenzie likes this.

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