NFL Combine wonderlic results

saintsfan200 · 03-09-2005, 09:48 AM

Not sure if these are complete results or not.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...est&order=DESC

Note: Probably the easiest way to find a specific player is to sort by school or name.

xan · 03-09-2005, 09:59 AM

not that I\'m casting aspersions on any potential draft choice, but if Derrick Johnson is a key target, isn\'t a Wonderlich score of 21 an indication of either illiteracy or sub-par native intelligence? Don\'t the Saints have enough talented but truly dumb players?

yasoon · 03-09-2005, 10:17 AM

I\'m consistently amazed at these scores. You\'re right, 21 seems low, but look at some guys that you would think would be smart and they probably won\'t blow you away either. (Some of the QBs did very well.) For whatever reason, I thought Mike Nugent (OSU) would be smart...I guess because he\'s a dorky kicker. He only has a 23.

The funny thing, the test is not that hard. I took it last year and got every single one right, honestly. It\'s all stuff that you would think people straight out of a top flite school would have fresh on their minds. I was a good student, but by no means the best. I would think that at least a couple of people would get them all right.

LKelley67 · 03-09-2005, 10:41 AM

i have taken the wonderlic also. for some jobs i think it can be very insightful. if i was a coach, i wouldnt care much unless they were dragging the bottom, dumb as a rock. anybody remember chuck muncie? a thousand yards and functionally illiterate.

dj wasn\'t that terrible in comparison either. highly rated ILB odell thurman 12. in fact half of the first round picks will have a score no higher than his. look at these million dollar babys- jammal brown 12, elton brown 13, pacman jones 13, j.j. arrington 13, carlos rogers 14, erasmus james 17, brandon browner 19, thomas davis 19, shawne merriman 19, alex barron 19, cedric benson 19, mike williams 20, troy williamson 21, antrell rolle 21, marlin jackson 21, dan cody 21, mark clayton 21, etc.

FireVenturi · 03-09-2005, 11:36 AM

At least he didn\'t score what Frank Gore Did....a 6

WhoDat · 03-09-2005, 12:11 PM

not that I\'m casting aspersions on any potential draft choice, but if Derrick Johnson is a key target, isn\'t a Wonderlich score of 21 an indication of either illiteracy or sub-par native intelligence?

Honestly, I can\'t remember, but I think 21 is at or slightly above average for NFL players. AB scored a 17.

WhoDat · 03-09-2005, 12:15 PM

Here you go:

Some teams consider the test results critical. Others say they dismiss the results, except for players who score at the extremes. What\'s an extreme? Well, former Bengals punter and Harvard grad Pat McInally scored a perfect 50 -- the only NFL player known to do so -- while at least one player, it is rumored, scored a 1. Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., says, \"A score of 10 is literacy, that\'s about all we can say.\" If that\'s the case, more than a few pros are being delivered the Books-on-Tape version of the playbook....

Each year, about 2.5 million job applicants, in every line of work, take the Wonderlic. The average NFL combiner scores about the same as the average applicant for any other job, a 21. A 20 indicates the test-taker has an IQ of 100, which is average.

Some people disagree with the whole idea of IQ testing because they believe the tests are culturally biased and inaccurate. But Charlie Wonderlic doesn\'t make grand claims for the score derived from his test. \"What the score does is help match training methods with a player\'s ability,\" he says. \"It could be a playbook -- what is the best way to teach a player a play? On the field, the higher the IQ, the greater the ability to understand and handle contingencies and make sound decisions on the fly.\"

In general, says Wonderlic, \"The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score.\"

This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman\'s \"The New Thinking man\'s Guide to Pro Football,\" which are:

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html

And the best part... TAKE THE WONDERLIC YOURSELF:
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html

lynwood · 03-09-2005, 12:21 PM

I;m a friggin genuis...I\'m gonna go build a rocket

WhoDat · 03-09-2005, 12:30 PM

I scored a 14 of 15 in 5 minutes... Stupid math! 17 pages not 18 dammit!!

Not surprising - programmers are the second highest average on the list.

Averaged out over 50 questions that means my Wonderlic would be a 46 or 47. LOL. Bow down!

JOESAM2002 · 03-09-2005, 12:38 PM

I wonder where a moderator on a Saints board is on this list? :sulkoff:

03-09-2005, 09:48 AM	#1
saintsfan200 Registered Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 67	NFL Combine wonderlic results Not sure if these are complete results or not. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...est&order=DESC Note: Probably the easiest way to find a specific player is to sort by school or name.
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03-09-2005, 09:59 AM	#2
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	NFL Combine wonderlic results not that I\'m casting aspersions on any potential draft choice, but if Derrick Johnson is a key target, isn\'t a Wonderlich score of 21 an indication of either illiteracy or sub-par native intelligence? Don\'t the Saints have enough talented but truly dumb players?

03-09-2005, 10:17 AM	#3
yasoon 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 594	NFL Combine wonderlic results I\'m consistently amazed at these scores. You\'re right, 21 seems low, but look at some guys that you would think would be smart and they probably won\'t blow you away either. (Some of the QBs did very well.) For whatever reason, I thought Mike Nugent (OSU) would be smart...I guess because he\'s a dorky kicker. He only has a 23. The funny thing, the test is not that hard. I took it last year and got every single one right, honestly. It\'s all stuff that you would think people straight out of a top flite school would have fresh on their minds. I was a good student, but by no means the best. I would think that at least a couple of people would get them all right.
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03-09-2005, 10:41 AM	#4
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	NFL Combine wonderlic results i have taken the wonderlic also. for some jobs i think it can be very insightful. if i was a coach, i wouldnt care much unless they were dragging the bottom, dumb as a rock. anybody remember chuck muncie? a thousand yards and functionally illiterate. dj wasn\'t that terrible in comparison either. highly rated ILB odell thurman 12. in fact half of the first round picks will have a score no higher than his. look at these million dollar babys- jammal brown 12, elton brown 13, pacman jones 13, j.j. arrington 13, carlos rogers 14, erasmus james 17, brandon browner 19, thomas davis 19, shawne merriman 19, alex barron 19, cedric benson 19, mike williams 20, troy williamson 21, antrell rolle 21, marlin jackson 21, dan cody 21, mark clayton 21, etc.

03-09-2005, 11:36 AM	#5
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03-09-2005, 12:15 PM	#7
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	NFL Combine wonderlic results Here you go: Some teams consider the test results critical. Others say they dismiss the results, except for players who score at the extremes. What\'s an extreme? Well, former Bengals punter and Harvard grad Pat McInally scored a perfect 50 -- the only NFL player known to do so -- while at least one player, it is rumored, scored a 1. Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., says, \"A score of 10 is literacy, that\'s about all we can say.\" If that\'s the case, more than a few pros are being delivered the Books-on-Tape version of the playbook.... Each year, about 2.5 million job applicants, in every line of work, take the Wonderlic. The average NFL combiner scores about the same as the average applicant for any other job, a 21. A 20 indicates the test-taker has an IQ of 100, which is average. Some people disagree with the whole idea of IQ testing because they believe the tests are culturally biased and inaccurate. But Charlie Wonderlic doesn\'t make grand claims for the score derived from his test. \"What the score does is help match training methods with a player\'s ability,\" he says. \"It could be a playbook -- what is the best way to teach a player a play? On the field, the higher the IQ, the greater the ability to understand and handle contingencies and make sound decisions on the fly.\" In general, says Wonderlic, \"The closer you are to the ball, the higher your score.\" This assessment roughly corresponds to the averages revealed, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman\'s \"The New Thinking man\'s Guide to Pro Football,\" which are: Offensive tackles: 26 Centers: 25 Quarterbacks: 24 Guards: 23 Tight Ends: 22 Safeties: 19 Middle linebackers: 19 Cornerbacks: 18 Wide receivers: 17 Fullbacks: 17 Halfbacks: 16 The average scores in other professions look like this: Chemist: 31 Programmer: 29 Newswriter: 26 Sales: 24 Bank teller: 22 Clerical Worker: 21 Security Guard: 17 Warehouse: 15 http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html And the best part... TAKE THE WONDERLIC YOURSELF: http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html
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lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	NFL Combine wonderlic results I;m a friggin genuis...I\'m gonna go build a rocket

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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	NFL Combine wonderlic results I scored a 14 of 15 in 5 minutes... Stupid math! 17 pages not 18 dammit!! Not surprising - programmers are the second highest average on the list. Averaged out over 50 questions that means my Wonderlic would be a 46 or 47. LOL. Bow down!
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03-09-2005, 12:38 PM	#10
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	NFL Combine wonderlic results I wonder where a moderator on a Saints board is on this list? :sulkoff: