Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations

arsaint · 09-05-2016, 01:23 PM

I say sign him because:

1) We will be a 3 win team for the rest of this decade without him

2) How much would a starting QB (assuming we could find one) that would give us a chance to sniff the playoffs cost us? Easily $20MM+

3) When you add the fact that Drew is a top 5 QB on a BAD day, how much does that price increase?

YES, Drew makes a ridiculous amount of $$$ when compared to the rest of us and is slated to make even more - in NOLA or elsewhere - but he does not make a ridiculous amount of $$$ compared to other starting QBs.

Brees is not perfect - dare I say he's cost us a game or two here or there - but he is the single reason this team is 7+ wins year in and year out and has a chance to make the playoffs. He also won us a Superbowl.

Sure, 7-9 back to back is VERY disappointing, but it beats the hell out of the end of Mora, the Ditka years, and the end of Haslett (along with the 1960s and most of the 1970s).

Get the deal done, clear up some cap, sign that OL from Dallas (burn up to a 5th rounder for him), and LET'S WIN SOME FOOTBALL GAMES!!!

|Mitch| · 09-05-2016, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

Get the deal done, clear up some cap, sign that OL from Dallas (burn up to a 5th rounder for him), and LET'S WIN SOME FOOTBALL GAMES!!!

I doubt a fifth would touch that OL from Dallas; Dallas is over-charging; especially this late in the ball-game

lee909 · 09-05-2016, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I doubt a fifth would touch that OL from Dallas; Dallas is over-charging; especially this late in the ball-game

Theyll get a 3 or 4th comp for loosing him in 2018 even if they keep him

WillSaints81 · 09-05-2016, 04:36 PM

It depends if the FO wants what Brees is asking for.

I will say this we are not prepared for life beyond Brees and that's pretty sad. That's why we will never be associated with other teams and always have our ancient history thrown in our face when we are not winning. Down the road no one is ever gonna want to go out of their way in the media and call Brees one of the all time greats just because "he made the saints relevant unlike any other QB". Just goes to show that we have not evolved and people are right to put us down because they have been right in saying we are a fluke.

AsylumGuido · 09-05-2016, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

It depends if the FO wants what Brees is asking for.

I will say this we are not prepared for life beyond Brees and that's pretty sad. That's why we will never be associated with other teams and always have our ancient history thrown in our face when we are not winning. Down the road no one is ever gonna want to go out of their way in the media and call Brees one of the all time greats just because "he made the saints relevant unlike any other QB". Just goes to show that we have not evolved and people are right to put us down because they have been right in saying we are a fluke.

jnormand · 09-05-2016, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

It depends if the FO wants what Brees is asking for.

I will say this we are not prepared for life beyond Brees and that's pretty sad. That's why we will never be associated with other teams and always have our ancient history thrown in our face when we are not winning. Down the road no one is ever gonna want to go out of their way in the media and call Brees one of the all time greats just because "he made the saints relevant unlike any other QB". Just goes to show that we have not evolved and people are right to put us down because they have been right in saying we are a fluke.

Good hell man. That's a hell of a negative stance on stuff. I get being realistic, but I don't think "fluke" is the word that I'd choose to describe the Saints.

AsylumGuido · 09-05-2016, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Good hell man. That's a hell of a negative stance on stuff. I get being realistic, but I don't think "fluke" is the word that I'd choose to describe the Saints.

The guy is a fruitcake.

WillSaints81 · 09-06-2016, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Good hell man. That's a hell of a negative stance on stuff. I get being realistic, but I don't think "fluke" is the word that I'd choose to describe the Saints.

In terms of eras we are. We have one serious contention era under our belt, the current one(or the better half). It's not me saying this it's others on here acting like when Brees is done, we won't contend anymore at this level.

The Dude · 09-05-2016, 05:23 PM

In any case I think his willingness to restart negotiations means he really wants to remain and retire a Saint. There was a point last year where I wondered if he was ready to get away from Saints/Payton.
Looks like he wants to make sure he is set financially before he takes a snap from behind our offensive line.

Also

vpheughan · 09-05-2016, 06:05 PM

fluke1
flo͞ok/Submit
noun
unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck.
"their triumph was no fluke"

09-05-2016, 01:23 PM	#1
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,732	Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations I say sign him because: 1) We will be a 3 win team for the rest of this decade without him 2) How much would a starting QB (assuming we could find one) that would give us a chance to sniff the playoffs cost us? Easily $20MM+ 3) When you add the fact that Drew is a top 5 QB on a BAD day, how much does that price increase? YES, Drew makes a ridiculous amount of $$$ when compared to the rest of us and is slated to make even more - in NOLA or elsewhere - but he does not make a ridiculous amount of $$$ compared to other starting QBs. Brees is not perfect - dare I say he's cost us a game or two here or there - but he is the single reason this team is 7+ wins year in and year out and has a chance to make the playoffs. He also won us a Superbowl. Sure, 7-9 back to back is VERY disappointing, but it beats the hell out of the end of Mora, the Ditka years, and the end of Haslett (along with the 1960s and most of the 1970s). Get the deal done, clear up some cap, sign that OL from Dallas (burn up to a 5th rounder for him), and LET'S WIN SOME FOOTBALL GAMES!!! SaintFanInATLHELL, jnormand, RockyMountainSaint and 7 others like this.

09-05-2016, 01:34 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations Originally Posted by arsaint Get the deal done, clear up some cap, sign that OL from Dallas (burn up to a 5th rounder for him), and LET'S WIN SOME FOOTBALL GAMES!!! I doubt a fifth would touch that OL from Dallas; Dallas is over-charging; especially this late in the ball-game

09-05-2016, 02:55 PM	#3
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I doubt a fifth would touch that OL from Dallas; Dallas is over-charging; especially this late in the ball-game Theyll get a 3 or 4th comp for loosing him in 2018 even if they keep him

09-05-2016, 04:36 PM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations It depends if the FO wants what Brees is asking for. I will say this we are not prepared for life beyond Brees and that's pretty sad. That's why we will never be associated with other teams and always have our ancient history thrown in our face when we are not winning. Down the road no one is ever gonna want to go out of their way in the media and call Brees one of the all time greats just because "he made the saints relevant unlike any other QB". Just goes to show that we have not evolved and people are right to put us down because they have been right in saying we are a fluke.

09-05-2016, 05:26 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations Originally Posted by WillSaints81 It depends if the FO wants what Brees is asking for. I will say this we are not prepared for life beyond Brees and that's pretty sad. That's why we will never be associated with other teams and always have our ancient history thrown in our face when we are not winning. Down the road no one is ever gonna want to go out of their way in the media and call Brees one of the all time greats just because "he made the saints relevant unlike any other QB". Just goes to show that we have not evolved and people are right to put us down because they have been right in saying we are a fluke.

09-05-2016, 05:39 PM	#6
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,735	Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations Originally Posted by WillSaints81 It depends if the FO wants what Brees is asking for. I will say this we are not prepared for life beyond Brees and that's pretty sad. That's why we will never be associated with other teams and always have our ancient history thrown in our face when we are not winning. Down the road no one is ever gonna want to go out of their way in the media and call Brees one of the all time greats just because "he made the saints relevant unlike any other QB". Just goes to show that we have not evolved and people are right to put us down because they have been right in saying we are a fluke. Good hell man. That's a hell of a negative stance on stuff. I get being realistic, but I don't think "fluke" is the word that I'd choose to describe the Saints.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations Originally Posted by jnormand Good hell man. That's a hell of a negative stance on stuff. I get being realistic, but I don't think "fluke" is the word that I'd choose to describe the Saints. The guy is a fruitcake.

09-06-2016, 06:26 PM	#8
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations Originally Posted by jnormand Good hell man. That's a hell of a negative stance on stuff. I get being realistic, but I don't think "fluke" is the word that I'd choose to describe the Saints. In terms of eras we are. We have one serious contention era under our belt, the current one(or the better half). It's not me saying this it's others on here acting like when Brees is done, we won't contend anymore at this level.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Saints & Brees re-start contract negotiations In any case I think his willingness to restart negotiations means he really wants to remain and retire a Saint. There was a point last year where I wondered if he was ready to get away from Saints/Payton. Looks like he wants to make sure he is set financially before he takes a snap from behind our offensive line. Also
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