There is more I hate about the saints than like right now

Danno · 09-07-2016, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

They don't give me what I want. I want a team that is all about youth movement without slow older players in the way. The more chances a younger player is given the better they will be. I hate all the recycling of the older players, veterans, Brees' and Payton's antics, the so called "superior posters" here falling in love with too many older players because of holding on to the past instead of embracing the future.

I'm not a falcons fan or a bucs fan. In fact if I ever turned on the saints, it would be for the colts or packers. Those are my second and third teams. But I'm not that type now(I turned on KC years ago). However, I'm starting to hate the fans because they root for stuff that's holding us back.

We're one of the youngest teams in the NFL.

Euphoria · 09-07-2016, 07:08 PM

Well you have to deal with the hand your are delt. You are trying to win so that means you put the best men you can find out on the field. Doesn't matter if they are 24 or 99.

Some young players don't get better with experience some get shell shocked and fold under the pressure. Its a double edge sword.

I agree there is more I dislike than I like about this team. One if we did in fact start a youth movement then we should have traded away Brees. Start clearing cap space and stock piling picks

Danno · 09-07-2016, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Well you have to deal with the hand your are delt. You are trying to win so that means you put the best men you can find out on the field. Doesn't matter if they are 24 or 99.

Some young players don't get better with experience some get shell shocked and fold under the pressure. Its a double edge sword.

I agree there is more I dislike than I like about this team. One if we did in fact start a youth movement then we should have traded away Brees. Start clearing cap space and stock piling picks

53 man roster, and you dislike more than 26 players on the team?

And we started the youth movement 2 years ago. We're one of the youngest teams in the league. (Edit: Defense age)

Utah_Saint · 09-07-2016, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We're one of the youngest teams in the NFL.

Actually, we're still one of the older teams. But really, this doesn't mean anything. The Saints average roster age is only a year and a half older than the youngest team in the league. I don't think there's ever been a correlation between the average age of the roster and success in the NFL. And there is only a 2.08 year difference between the youngest team and the oldest. And, keep in mind, even one outlier can have a drastic impact on this list. For example, Drew increases the Saints average age by just over .2 years. Without Drew, the Saints would drop to 19th on the list.

Average age per rosters as of 53 man cut off.

1. Rams - 25
2. Browns - 25.08
3. Packers - 25.36
4. Jaguars - 25.43
5. Broncos - 25.47
6. Chiefs - 25.54
7. Seahawks - 25.6
8. Buccaneers - 25.7
9. Chargers - 25.73
10. Bears - 25.85
11. Titans - 25.87
12. Cowboys - 26
13. Raiders - 26.02
14. Giants - 26.02
15. Patriots - 26.07
16. 49ers - 26.08
17. Cardinals - 26.09
18. Lions - 26.09
19. Texans - 26.17
20. Dolphins - 26.19
21. Jets - 26.23
22. Bils- 26.3
23. Bengals - 26.3
24. Steelers - 26.34
25. Redskins - 26.36
26. Saints - 26.4
27. Ravens - 26.43
28. Eagles - 26.49
29. Colts - 26.52
30. Panthers - 26.53
31. Vikings - 26.58
32. Falcons - 27.08

Danno · 09-07-2016, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Actually, we're still one of the older teams. But really, this doesn't mean anything. The Saints average roster age is only a year and a half older than the youngest team in the league. I don't think there's ever been a correlation between the average age of the roster and success in the NFL. And there is only a 2.08 year difference between the youngest team and the oldest. And, keep in mind, even one outlier can have a drastic impact on this list. For example, Drew increases the Saints average age by just over .2 years. Without Drew, the Saints would drop to 19th on the list.

Average age per rosters as of 53 man cut off.

1. Rams - 25
2. Browns - 25.08
3. Packers - 25.36
4. Jaguars - 25.43
5. Broncos - 25.47
6. Chiefs - 25.54
7. Seahawks - 25.6
8. Buccaneers - 25.7
9. Chargers - 25.73
10. Bears - 25.85
11. Titans - 25.87
12. Cowboys - 26
13. Raiders - 26.02
14. Giants - 26.02
15. Patriots - 26.07
16. 49ers - 26.08
17. Cardinals - 26.09
18. Lions - 26.09
19. Texans - 26.17
20. Dolphins - 26.19
21. Jets - 26.23
22. Bils- 26.3
23. Bengals - 26.3
24. Steelers - 26.34
25. Redskins - 26.36
26. Saints - 26.4
27. Ravens - 26.43
28. Eagles - 26.49
29. Colts - 26.52
30. Panthers - 26.53
31. Vikings - 26.58
32. Falcons - 27.08

Yeah, I corrected it on another thread. We're one of the youngest defenses, not teams.

Brees, Strief, Finnegan, Laurenaitus, Kuhn and Harper skew the team age up a bit.

And notice the difference between top 5 and bottom 5 is only 1 year? I think its a meaningless stat.

lee909 · 09-07-2016, 08:22 PM

Doing it on the 53 man roster swings things. Loads wint be on the roster year to year

Thomas/Snead/Cooks

Fleener

Armstead

Breaux/Williams/Swann

Vacarro/Bell

Cam Jordan/Rankins

All major first team players all 27 or under. Most 25 or under

Utah_Saint · 09-07-2016, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

And notice the difference between top 5 and bottom 5 is only 1 year? I think its a meaningless stat.

I agree, the average age of a team means absolutely nothing when it comes to team success. Age really only comes into play when determining contracts of individual players. The Rams have been the youngest team in the league for 5 years running and they haven't been to the playoffs since 2004.

AllSaints · 09-07-2016, 08:37 PM

Oh please this guys taking bout his other teams If he stopped rooting for the saints.... Ya know who my team would be... I wouldn't have one Saints fan since birth grew up a family of saints fans and will never cheer for another team.... Bandwagon fan 101 with this guy....

WillSaints81 · 09-09-2016, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

THE ONLY JOY I TAKE FROM LIFE IS POSTING ABOUT HOW MISERABLE I AM!!!!!
Bet you're a lot of fun at a crawfish boil......

I don't even live in La and this has nothing to do with my life outside of football.

jonnyrotten · 09-09-2016, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

They don't give me what I want. I want a team that is all about youth movement without slow older players in the way. The more chances a younger player is given the better they will be. I hate all the recycling of the older players, veterans, Brees' and Payton's antics, the so called "superior posters" here falling in love with too many older players because of holding on to the past instead of embracing the future.

I'm not a falcons fan or a bucs fan. In fact if I ever turned on the saints, it would be for the colts or packers. Those are my second and third teams. But I'm not that type now(I turned on KC years ago). However, I'm starting to hate the fans because they root for stuff that's holding us back.

Willsaints81, did you get this all worked out yet?

09-07-2016, 07:00 PM	#31
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: There is more I hate about the saints than like right now Originally Posted by WillSaints81 They don't give me what I want. I want a team that is all about youth movement without slow older players in the way. The more chances a younger player is given the better they will be. I hate all the recycling of the older players, veterans, Brees' and Payton's antics, the so called "superior posters" here falling in love with too many older players because of holding on to the past instead of embracing the future. I'm not a falcons fan or a bucs fan. In fact if I ever turned on the saints, it would be for the colts or packers. Those are my second and third teams. But I'm not that type now(I turned on KC years ago). However, I'm starting to hate the fans because they root for stuff that's holding us back. We're one of the youngest teams in the NFL. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

09-07-2016, 07:08 PM	#32
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: There is more I hate about the saints than like right now Well you have to deal with the hand your are delt. You are trying to win so that means you put the best men you can find out on the field. Doesn't matter if they are 24 or 99. Some young players don't get better with experience some get shell shocked and fold under the pressure. Its a double edge sword. I agree there is more I dislike than I like about this team. One if we did in fact start a youth movement then we should have traded away Brees. Start clearing cap space and stock piling picks
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09-07-2016, 07:15 PM	#33
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: There is more I hate about the saints than like right now Originally Posted by Euphoria Well you have to deal with the hand your are delt. You are trying to win so that means you put the best men you can find out on the field. Doesn't matter if they are 24 or 99. Some young players don't get better with experience some get shell shocked and fold under the pressure. Its a double edge sword. I agree there is more I dislike than I like about this team. One if we did in fact start a youth movement then we should have traded away Brees. Start clearing cap space and stock piling picks 53 man roster, and you dislike more than 26 players on the team? And we started the youth movement 2 years ago. We're one of the youngest teams in the league. (Edit: Defense age) RockyMountainSaint likes this.

09-07-2016, 08:14 PM	#34
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: There is more I hate about the saints than like right now Originally Posted by Danno We're one of the youngest teams in the NFL. Actually, we're still one of the older teams. But really, this doesn't mean anything. The Saints average roster age is only a year and a half older than the youngest team in the league. I don't think there's ever been a correlation between the average age of the roster and success in the NFL. And there is only a 2.08 year difference between the youngest team and the oldest. And, keep in mind, even one outlier can have a drastic impact on this list. For example, Drew increases the Saints average age by just over .2 years. Without Drew, the Saints would drop to 19th on the list. Average age per rosters as of 53 man cut off. 1. Rams - 25 2. Browns - 25.08 3. Packers - 25.36 4. Jaguars - 25.43 5. Broncos - 25.47 6. Chiefs - 25.54 7. Seahawks - 25.6 8. Buccaneers - 25.7 9. Chargers - 25.73 10. Bears - 25.85 11. Titans - 25.87 12. Cowboys - 26 13. Raiders - 26.02 14. Giants - 26.02 15. Patriots - 26.07 16. 49ers - 26.08 17. Cardinals - 26.09 18. Lions - 26.09 19. Texans - 26.17 20. Dolphins - 26.19 21. Jets - 26.23 22. Bils- 26.3 23. Bengals - 26.3 24. Steelers - 26.34 25. Redskins - 26.36 26. Saints - 26.4 27. Ravens - 26.43 28. Eagles - 26.49 29. Colts - 26.52 30. Panthers - 26.53 31. Vikings - 26.58 32. Falcons - 27.08

09-07-2016, 08:20 PM	#35
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: There is more I hate about the saints than like right now Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Actually, we're still one of the older teams. But really, this doesn't mean anything. The Saints average roster age is only a year and a half older than the youngest team in the league. I don't think there's ever been a correlation between the average age of the roster and success in the NFL. And there is only a 2.08 year difference between the youngest team and the oldest. And, keep in mind, even one outlier can have a drastic impact on this list. For example, Drew increases the Saints average age by just over .2 years. Without Drew, the Saints would drop to 19th on the list. Average age per rosters as of 53 man cut off. 1. Rams - 25 2. Browns - 25.08 3. Packers - 25.36 4. Jaguars - 25.43 5. Broncos - 25.47 6. Chiefs - 25.54 7. Seahawks - 25.6 8. Buccaneers - 25.7 9. Chargers - 25.73 10. Bears - 25.85 11. Titans - 25.87 12. Cowboys - 26 13. Raiders - 26.02 14. Giants - 26.02 15. Patriots - 26.07 16. 49ers - 26.08 17. Cardinals - 26.09 18. Lions - 26.09 19. Texans - 26.17 20. Dolphins - 26.19 21. Jets - 26.23 22. Bils- 26.3 23. Bengals - 26.3 24. Steelers - 26.34 25. Redskins - 26.36 26. Saints - 26.4 27. Ravens - 26.43 28. Eagles - 26.49 29. Colts - 26.52 30. Panthers - 26.53 31. Vikings - 26.58 32. Falcons - 27.08 Yeah, I corrected it on another thread. We're one of the youngest defenses, not teams. Brees, Strief, Finnegan, Laurenaitus, Kuhn and Harper skew the team age up a bit. And notice the difference between top 5 and bottom 5 is only 1 year? I think its a meaningless stat. Utah_Saint likes this.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: There is more I hate about the saints than like right now Doing it on the 53 man roster swings things. Loads wint be on the roster year to year Thomas/Snead/Cooks Fleener Armstead Breaux/Williams/Swann Vacarro/Bell Cam Jordan/Rankins All major first team players all 27 or under. Most 25 or under

09-07-2016, 08:34 PM	#37
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: There is more I hate about the saints than like right now Originally Posted by Danno And notice the difference between top 5 and bottom 5 is only 1 year? I think its a meaningless stat. I agree, the average age of a team means absolutely nothing when it comes to team success. Age really only comes into play when determining contracts of individual players. The Rams have been the youngest team in the league for 5 years running and they haven't been to the playoffs since 2004.

09-07-2016, 08:37 PM	#38
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: There is more I hate about the saints than like right now Oh please this guys taking bout his other teams If he stopped rooting for the saints.... Ya know who my team would be... I wouldn't have one Saints fan since birth grew up a family of saints fans and will never cheer for another team.... Bandwagon fan 101 with this guy.... \|Mitch\| likes this.

09-09-2016, 02:37 PM	#39
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: There is more I hate about the saints than like right now Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint THE ONLY JOY I TAKE FROM LIFE IS POSTING ABOUT HOW MISERABLE I AM!!!!! Bet you're a lot of fun at a crawfish boil...... I don't even live in La and this has nothing to do with my life outside of football.

09-09-2016, 05:03 PM	#40
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 511	Re: There is more I hate about the saints than like right now Originally Posted by WillSaints81 They don't give me what I want. I want a team that is all about youth movement without slow older players in the way. The more chances a younger player is given the better they will be. I hate all the recycling of the older players, veterans, Brees' and Payton's antics, the so called "superior posters" here falling in love with too many older players because of holding on to the past instead of embracing the future. I'm not a falcons fan or a bucs fan. In fact if I ever turned on the saints, it would be for the colts or packers. Those are my second and third teams. But I'm not that type now(I turned on KC years ago). However, I'm starting to hate the fans because they root for stuff that's holding us back. Willsaints81, did you get this all worked out yet?

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