PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.'

AsylumGuido · 09-08-2016, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

Okay asylum what will it take for you to finally see and admit that they are bad how many games one two three Or after 16 games will you finally admit that they're bad

I am fully expecting them to NOT look bad. I'll will admit they are bad if and only when they show it as a full unit in real games. I can honestly say I don't know if they will look decent until I see them play.

Danno · 09-08-2016, 06:22 PM

The starters haven't played a game together this preseason.

I guess one could say thats bad because they haven't gelled, but one could also ask how can you judge an O-line that hasn't even played all 5 starters for a single snap yet.

My intuition says they'll be no worse than last year and likely a lot better. Meaning we'll still be a top 5 offense.

The defense was the problem, and it looks like we've upgraded every unit top to bottom.

AsylumGuido · 09-08-2016, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The starters haven't played a game together this preseason.

I guess one could say thats bad because they haven't gelled, but one could also ask how can you judge an O-line that hasn't even played all 5 starters for a single snap yet.

My intuition says they'll be no worse than last year and likely a lot better. Meaning we'll still be a top 5 offense.

The defense was the problem, and it looks like we've upgraded every unit top to bottom.

Now that is completely logical and well reasoned.

saintshrimp · 09-08-2016, 06:32 PM

Danno
I have no doubt that they'll be a top offense no question they've been one ever since Sean has been here but they've had one for the last 10 years in the last three years we've been a below-average team and it starts up front this team is unable to sustain drives On a consistent basis
Drew id going to put up his numbers there's no question about that none

AsylumGuido · 09-08-2016, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

Danno
I have no doubt that they'll be a top offense no question they've been one ever since Sean has been here but they've had one for the last 10 years in the last three years we've been a below-average team and it starts up front this team is unable to sustain drives On a consistent basis
Drew id going to put up his numbers there's no question about that none

Yes, that and the defense continuously putting the offense into a hole that takes away their ability to be balanced.

saintshrimp · 09-08-2016, 06:51 PM

Look I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong I would also hope that you would eat yours if you're wrong We agree to disagree but I have seen nothing that makes me think what I believe is wrong.If you are proven wrong I would hope That someday you would learn to stop looking through the black and gold spectacles On occasion. When it looks like a duck quacks like a duck It's a duck

AsylumGuido · 09-08-2016, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

Look I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong I would also hope that you would eat yours if you're wrong We agree to disagree but I have seen nothing that makes me think what I believe is wrong.If you are proven wrong I would hope That someday you would learn to stop looking through the black and gold spectacles On occasion. When it looks like a duck quacks like a duck It's a duck

If I see it and I hear it then I will accept it - a horrible offensive line - one of the worst in the NFL.

spkb25 · 09-08-2016, 07:06 PM

I just want to point out that what people are saying about our offense last year is not true. It took some time for our offense to improve and in the beginning there was a lot of complaining about how we couldn't move the ball and kept throwing screens and short passes. Also, some of the yards we gained were during garbage time when the opposing team went into prevent, but that said let me add some proof to my claim about the first few weeks:

19,19,22,26,17. Those are the points we scored in the first 5 games

saintshrimp · 09-08-2016, 07:07 PM

Oh I agree the defense is a huge problem but that's a entirely different discussion we are talking offensive line and how bad they are. Yes I totally agree the defense has been awful which leads to slot of garbage time stats that inflate the offenses stats

lee909 · 09-08-2016, 08:39 PM

The line while not being 06-11 good still gave up one of the fewest sack totals.

It was tied 8th best giving up 32 sacks. Then you consider it threw over 660 times only the Giants,Clowns and Ravens threw close to that and had the same or less given up sack.

09-08-2016, 06:25 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by saintshrimp Okay asylum what will it take for you to finally see and admit that they are bad how many games one two three Or after 16 games will you finally admit that they're bad I am fully expecting them to NOT look bad. I'll will admit they are bad if and only when they show it as a full unit in real games. I can honestly say I don't know if they will look decent until I see them play.

09-08-2016, 06:22 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' The starters haven't played a game together this preseason. I guess one could say thats bad because they haven't gelled, but one could also ask how can you judge an O-line that hasn't even played all 5 starters for a single snap yet. My intuition says they'll be no worse than last year and likely a lot better. Meaning we'll still be a top 5 offense. The defense was the problem, and it looks like we've upgraded every unit top to bottom. AsylumGuido likes this.

09-08-2016, 06:26 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by Danno The starters haven't played a game together this preseason. I guess one could say thats bad because they haven't gelled, but one could also ask how can you judge an O-line that hasn't even played all 5 starters for a single snap yet. My intuition says they'll be no worse than last year and likely a lot better. Meaning we'll still be a top 5 offense. The defense was the problem, and it looks like we've upgraded every unit top to bottom. Now that is completely logical and well reasoned.

09-08-2016, 06:32 PM	#4
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Danno I have no doubt that they'll be a top offense no question they've been one ever since Sean has been here but they've had one for the last 10 years in the last three years we've been a below-average team and it starts up front this team is unable to sustain drives On a consistent basis Drew id going to put up his numbers there's no question about that none

09-08-2016, 06:40 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by saintshrimp Danno I have no doubt that they'll be a top offense no question they've been one ever since Sean has been here but they've had one for the last 10 years in the last three years we've been a below-average team and it starts up front this team is unable to sustain drives On a consistent basis Drew id going to put up his numbers there's no question about that none Yes, that and the defense continuously putting the offense into a hole that takes away their ability to be balanced.

09-08-2016, 06:51 PM	#6
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Look I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong I would also hope that you would eat yours if you're wrong We agree to disagree but I have seen nothing that makes me think what I believe is wrong.If you are proven wrong I would hope That someday you would learn to stop looking through the black and gold spectacles On occasion. When it looks like a duck quacks like a duck It's a duck

09-08-2016, 07:07 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by saintshrimp Look I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong I would also hope that you would eat yours if you're wrong We agree to disagree but I have seen nothing that makes me think what I believe is wrong.If you are proven wrong I would hope That someday you would learn to stop looking through the black and gold spectacles On occasion. When it looks like a duck quacks like a duck It's a duck If I see it and I hear it then I will accept it - a horrible offensive line - one of the worst in the NFL.

09-08-2016, 07:06 PM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' I just want to point out that what people are saying about our offense last year is not true. It took some time for our offense to improve and in the beginning there was a lot of complaining about how we couldn't move the ball and kept throwing screens and short passes. Also, some of the yards we gained were during garbage time when the opposing team went into prevent, but that said let me add some proof to my claim about the first few weeks: 19,19,22,26,17. Those are the points we scored in the first 5 games
	Your team stinks

09-08-2016, 08:39 PM	#10
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' The line while not being 06-11 good still gave up one of the fewest sack totals. It was tied 8th best giving up 32 sacks. Then you consider it threw over 660 times only the Giants,Clowns and Ravens threw close to that and had the same or less given up sack.

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