PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.'

jeanpierre · 09-07-2016, 10:57 AM

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Following a 7-9 campaign in 2015, the New Orleans Saints are looking to bounce back into NFC South contention this season. With a veteran signal caller and impressive line on the offensive side of the ball, can the Saints’ defense improve enough to vault New Orleans back into the playoff conversation?

Three biggest things to know...

2. The offensive line is very good, and has the potential to be great.

This is a unit anchored by LT Terron Armstead, the third-highest graded tackle in football last season, at 90.8. Meanwhile, Tim Lelito earned the sixth-best run-blocking grade among NFL guards, and Max Unger recorded the sixth-best pass-blocking grade among centers. Sophomore G Andrus Peat should show improvement as he matures in the league after an average rookie season in which he had a handful of bright spots. Finally, RT Zach Strief is only a few years removed from being a top-three tackle in the NFL. This unit is already good, but if all five starters reach their potential, it could be one of the best O-lines in the league...

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saintfan · 09-07-2016, 11:06 AM

The last truly dominant line I can remember was the Cowboys'. That line made Troy, Emmit, and Michael. Those guys were good but that team won on the line...every play just about. So I measure us against that and I just don't see that we are close.

If I'm wrong that's great. I'll take a side of mashed taters with my Crowe. I think our oline is bad and I hope I'm wrong.

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lee909 · 09-07-2016, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

The last truly dominant line I can remember was the Cowboys'. That line made Troy, Emmit, and Michael.

Bushrod-Nicks-Goodwin-Evans-Stinchcombe

Thats was as good a line as you'll see. It'll never get the reconised as one for the same reason all the media keep going on about Manning and Brady and now Rodgers and Wilson and ignoring the man the has been there and iut thrown them

AsylumGuido · 09-07-2016, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

The last truly dominant line I can remember was the Cowboys'. That line made Troy, Emmit, and Michael. Those guys were good but that team won on the line...every play just about. So I measure us against that and I just don't see that we are close.

If I'm wrong that's great. I'll take a side of mashed taters with my Crowe. I think our oline is bad and I hope I'm wrong.

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Don't worry, your hope is true.

saintfan · 09-07-2016, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Don't worry, your hope is true.

Well we'll see. Let's just say the preseason didn't offer much encouragement up front. I know we played people out of position, had a big injury, etc. Giving all that its due weight I'm still worried.

spkb25 · 09-07-2016, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Well we'll see. Let's just say the preseason didn't offer much encouragement up front. I know we played people out of position, had a big injury, etc. Giving all that its due weight I'm still worried.

you can't be completely wrong in what you're thinking because if you were we wouldn't be bringing in olineman that can't make other clubs

WillMacKenzie · 09-07-2016, 04:08 PM

And the front 7, I KNOW is better than 29th -- but I guess they'll just prove that by the end of the year.

AsylumGuido · 09-07-2016, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

you can't be completely wrong in what you're thinking because if you were we wouldn't be bringing in olineman that can't make other clubs

If the Saints offensive line is even slightly above average, it makes sense that at least several, let's say as many as 14 of those teams that are better cut players that just barely miss their cut. It again makes sense that out of those 14 cuts at least three or four are worth looking at and it is not out of the realm of possibility that one or two might even be considered an upgrade to our already above average offensive line. Right?

spkb25 · 09-07-2016, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If the Saints offensive line is even slightly above average, it makes sense that at least several, let's say as many as 14 of those teams that are better cut players that just barely miss their cut. It again makes sense that out of those 14 cuts at least three or four are worth looking at and it is not out of the realm of possibility that one or two might even be considered an upgrade to our already above average offensive line. Right?

No, not at all. We brought in a tackle that no one wanted. We just brought back Evans, who a total of two teams even looked at, and the one that signed him ended up cutting him. none of these things are being done because Sean thinks our oline is good with the ability to be great. I never remember us looking for guards back when nicks and evans were doing their thing. My hope is that evans gives us enough this year at rg to hold things together. Peat looked better at LG. So there may be hope we could be just decent enough. That could get us to the playoffs.

WillMacKenzie · 09-07-2016, 04:32 PM

Once Peat gets a good amount of snaps at LG, he's going to be good. He can run too

09-07-2016, 10:57 AM	#1
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09-07-2016, 11:06 AM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' The last truly dominant line I can remember was the Cowboys'. That line made Troy, Emmit, and Michael. Those guys were good but that team won on the line...every play just about. So I measure us against that and I just don't see that we are close. If I'm wrong that's great. I'll take a side of mashed taters with my Crowe. I think our oline is bad and I hope I'm wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Halo, Beastmode and pherein like this.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by saintfan The last truly dominant line I can remember was the Cowboys'. That line made Troy, Emmit, and Michael. Bushrod-Nicks-Goodwin-Evans-Stinchcombe Thats was as good a line as you'll see. It'll never get the reconised as one for the same reason all the media keep going on about Manning and Brady and now Rodgers and Wilson and ignoring the man the has been there and iut thrown them captainshawn and WhoDatFan26 like this.

09-07-2016, 01:59 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by saintfan The last truly dominant line I can remember was the Cowboys'. That line made Troy, Emmit, and Michael. Those guys were good but that team won on the line...every play just about. So I measure us against that and I just don't see that we are close. If I'm wrong that's great. I'll take a side of mashed taters with my Crowe. I think our oline is bad and I hope I'm wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Don't worry, your hope is true.

09-07-2016, 02:38 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Don't worry, your hope is true. Well we'll see. Let's just say the preseason didn't offer much encouragement up front. I know we played people out of position, had a big injury, etc. Giving all that its due weight I'm still worried. Halo and hagan714 like this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by saintfan Well we'll see. Let's just say the preseason didn't offer much encouragement up front. I know we played people out of position, had a big injury, etc. Giving all that its due weight I'm still worried. you can't be completely wrong in what you're thinking because if you were we wouldn't be bringing in olineman that can't make other clubs saintfan likes this.

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WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' And the front 7, I KNOW is better than 29th -- but I guess they'll just prove that by the end of the year.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by spkb25 you can't be completely wrong in what you're thinking because if you were we wouldn't be bringing in olineman that can't make other clubs If the Saints offensive line is even slightly above average, it makes sense that at least several, let's say as many as 14 of those teams that are better cut players that just barely miss their cut. It again makes sense that out of those 14 cuts at least three or four are worth looking at and it is not out of the realm of possibility that one or two might even be considered an upgrade to our already above average offensive line. Right?

09-07-2016, 04:28 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If the Saints offensive line is even slightly above average, it makes sense that at least several, let's say as many as 14 of those teams that are better cut players that just barely miss their cut. It again makes sense that out of those 14 cuts at least three or four are worth looking at and it is not out of the realm of possibility that one or two might even be considered an upgrade to our already above average offensive line. Right? No, not at all. We brought in a tackle that no one wanted. We just brought back Evans, who a total of two teams even looked at, and the one that signed him ended up cutting him. none of these things are being done because Sean thinks our oline is good with the ability to be great. I never remember us looking for guards back when nicks and evans were doing their thing. My hope is that evans gives us enough this year at rg to hold things together. Peat looked better at LG. So there may be hope we could be just decent enough. That could get us to the playoffs.
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WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.' Once Peat gets a good amount of snaps at LG, he's going to be good. He can run too

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