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CharityMike 09-11-2016 04:01 PM

Re: Game Day - Opening Day: Oakland Raiders vs New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 718323)
We allowed 35 points when our D had supposedly got better, seems pretty disastrous to me.

Almost 500 yrds of offense allowed. 167 rushing and 319 passing. Anybody saying anything other than this D is junk is living in la la land. Hopefully it can get better but this doesn't give warm fuzzy feeling.

Lord_Saint83 09-11-2016 04:01 PM

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To me the only bright spot on the d was Vaccaro he was every where

jeanpierre 09-11-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 718328)
He got trucked several times today. He is already slow and didn't do a whole lot in coverage. At least Stephone was around the ball at MLB last year.

Drafting another fast, rangy LB with superior cover skills (Shazier of Pitt comes to mind) should be a priority this off season.

Since there was so much sense of urgency this past week, I'd consider moving Stephone Anthony back to the Mike and get Stupar and Robertson at the OLB...

Robertson really played his heart out and got a totally sh*tty call on an uncatchable 4th down play that should've ended it...

I like Laurinaitis, but he really did look listless and has nothing left in the tank...sort of like Jairus Byrd...

spkb25 09-11-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 718333)
You won't find more of a diehard fan that me and while I am disappointed and thought we got screwed I am preparing for us to go 15-1.

that's your prerogative and nothing wrong with it, but you don't have to try to attack or diminish those that are upset and don't feel that way right now. They have the right to feel the way they do as much as you do.

44Champs 09-11-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 718324)
no, we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory is what we did today. It is inexcusable. If you're looking for people to cheerlead for the saints I suggest you head over to the Saintsaitions page and have at it. People who are die hard fans are going to be candid about what they just saw. If you don't like it then ignore it. You can post what you saw good, etc, but we choose to be candid about what just happened

If you dont like what I post then follow your own advice and ignore it. I wasnt even addressing you when you came to the defense of your girlfriend. Hypocrite.

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Garry42 09-11-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 718333)
You won't find more of a diehard fan that me and while I am disappointed and thought we got screwed I am preparing for us to go 15-1.

I'm a bit more realistic.....13 and 3 is how I see it!

spkb25 09-11-2016 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 718334)
Almost 500 yrds of offense allowed. 167 rushing and 319 passing. Anybody saying anything other than this D is junk is living in la la land. Hopefully it can get better but this doesn't give warm fuzzy feeling.

we couldn't stop anything after the injury to Breaux, asbolutely no doubt. it was like when we played the eagles in the playoffs and lewis went out

saintshrimp 09-11-2016 04:06 PM

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ok they played ok today better than i expected oline looked decent but still the same on defense same ole results

AsylumGuido 09-11-2016 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Garry42 (Post 718340)
I'm a bit more realistic.....13 and 3 is how I see it!

To be honest, I am about to bail from B&G here. Too many panty waste fans. It used to be a good site but it has gone down hill fast.

jeanpierre 09-11-2016 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 718341)
we couldn't stop anything after the injury to Breaux, asbolutely no doubt. it was like when we played the eagles in the playoffs and lewis went out

Can't hang it on the DBs alone, there was no pass rush - THERE WERE NO FREAKING SACKS!!!

And when you're in a shootout, and you're Drew Brees & the Saints, you can't go down the field and walkaway with a rookie kicker taking shots for threes...

It was a great effort, with terrible breakdowns...

spkb25 09-11-2016 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 718339)
If you dont like what I post then follow your own advice and ignore it. I wasnt even addressing you when you came to the defense of your girlfriend. Hypocrite.

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I only care what you post when you want to go on the attack against someone else, especially when you try to gang up. Post what you want about how we played, and you won't hear from me, but if you want to try to gang up and attack someone on here who was being real and candid (not trolling) then I am going to get in on it

brees84 09-11-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 718336)
To me the only bright spot on the d was Vaccaro he was every where

Vaccaro was great today.

spkb25 09-11-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 718344)
Can't hang it on the DBs alone, there was no pass rush - THERE WERE NO FREAKING SACKS!!!

And when you're in a shootout, and you're Drew Brees & the Saints, you can't go down the field and walkaway with a rookie kicker taking shots for threes...

It was a great effort, with terrible breakdowns...

certainly true, absolutely no pass rush, agreed, but my only point was there was a noticeable difference after the second injury to breaux

jeanpierre 09-11-2016 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 718347)
certainly true, absolutely no pass rush, agreed, but my only point was there was a noticeable difference after the second injury to breaux

And that's both a testament to Breaux and that you can't expect rookie DBs to cover for 4+ seconds...

spkb25 09-11-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 718348)
And that's both a testament to Breaux and that you can't expect rookie DBs to cover for 4+ seconds...

lol, JP right about now I don't expect crawley to cover for 1/2 a second lmmfao

saintshrimp 09-11-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 718343)
To be honest, I am about to bail from B&G here. Too many panty waste fans. It used to be a good site but it has gone down hill fast.

wouldnt be a huge loss to some but how would i collect

WillMacKenzie 09-11-2016 04:13 PM

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That was painful. Sad to see the offense get their hard work squandered like that. I'm not going to roll it all up yet, but man. To crumble like that in the 4th quarter is really bad for a young D's confidence

dizzle88 09-11-2016 04:14 PM

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This loss is going to haunt me for ages, I don't understand how we can go from having all the momentum and a 14 point to allowing 75 yard TD runs and not being able to stop 2 point conversions

44Champs 09-11-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 718345)
I only care what you post when you want to go on the attack against someone else, especially when you try to gang up. Post what you want about how we played, and you won't hear from me, but if you want to try to gang up and attack someone on here who was being real and candid (not trolling) then I am going to get in on it

Go back and read all the posts b4 you chime in w your ignorant comments. I made a comment about the saints giving a good effort, he refuted it with what I see as a negative post, and I responded. This had nothing to do w you. So again, get off your fkn knight in shining armor horse. Rezburna can fend for himself unless you feel some need to hang onto his jockstrap.

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spkb25 09-11-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 718356)
Go back and read all the posts b4 you chime in w your ignorant comments. I made a comment about the saints giving a good effort, he refuted it with what I see as a negative post, and I responded. This had nothing to do w you. So again, get off your fkn knight in shining armor horse. Rezburna can fend for himself unless you feel some need to hang onto his jockstrap.

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rez certainly can until you have to gang up with another board member against him. Too much of that on here sometimes. If he was trolling I'd understand, but he was just being honest. Bye 44champs

Danno 09-11-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 718343)
To be honest, I am about to bail from B&G here. Too many panty waste fans. It used to be a good site but it has gone down hill fast.

I'm not far behind. It just seems like nothing but crybabies

K Major 09-11-2016 04:22 PM

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Surprisingly Cam Jordan had an off game.

spkb25 09-11-2016 04:23 PM

Re: Game Day - Opening Day: Oakland Raiders vs New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 718353)
This loss is going to haunt me for ages, I don't understand how we can go from having all the momentum and a 14 point to allowing 75 yard TD runs and not being able to stop 2 point conversions

these are always the toughest ones to swallow for me too

voodooido 09-11-2016 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 718313)
No - i just hate the negative BS from you bandwagoners when the saints played a tough game. If yall dont see that then keep playing together in yalls little sandbox

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Well this is a stupid comment. I've been a fan since 1975 and get pissed after every loss. "Bandwagon" fans would be more inclined not to care. I've been cursing the saints since before you were crapping green.

spkb25 09-11-2016 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 718363)
Well this is a stupid comment. I've been a fan since 1975 and get pissed after every loss. "Bandwagon" fans would be more inclined not to care. I've been cursing the saints since before you were crapping green.

Yeah I have been one since I was 10 or 11 so it has been a longggg time

CharityMike 09-11-2016 04:25 PM

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Did we blitz at all? Couldn't tell. We need to manufacture pressure somehow. If we don't this is going to be a long year.

44Champs 09-11-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 718358)
rez certainly can until you have to gang up with another board member against him. Too much of that on here sometimes. If he was trolling I'd understand, but he was just being honest. Bye 44champs

Damn - you use the word "ganging up" pretty loosely. I didnt realize you were bulled as a kid. Sorry about that.

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spkb25 09-11-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 718365)
Did we blitz at all? Couldn't tell. We need to manufacture pressure somehow. If we don't this is going to be a long year.

we did

spkb25 09-11-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 718366)
Damn - you use the word "ganging up" pretty loosely. I didnt realize you were bulled as a kid.

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I wasn't bulled as a kid, but I am a teacher and I don't like to see people do those cowardly types of things

burningmetal 09-11-2016 04:27 PM

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I giggle at the comments from people saying they want to leave the site, because they don't like what people say. Makes me wonder why you come here in the first place.

44Champs 09-11-2016 04:28 PM

Re: Game Day - Opening Day: Oakland Raiders vs New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 718363)
Well this is a stupid comment. I've been a fan since 1975 and get pissed after every loss. "Bandwagon" fans would be more inclined not to care. I've been cursing the saints since before you were crapping green.

1st game of the year and people talking about how the saints suck after putting out that kind of effort. Youre probably the biggest offender so I'm not surprised to hear this from you.

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spkb25 09-11-2016 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 718369)
I giggle at the comments from people saying they want to leave the site, because they don't like what people say. Makes me wonder why you come here in the first place.

lol

saintshrimp 09-11-2016 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 718369)
I giggle at the comments from people saying they want to leave the site, because they don't like what people say. Makes me wonder why you come here in the first place.

I agree with that
Sounds like some panzy asses where is the positive Pete additude they had

K Major 09-11-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 718264)
I can't deal with this ****. Blowing leads...not scoring in the redzone. Smfh.

This ^^^. Fleener, time to step it up. You are friggin 6'6.

burningmetal 09-11-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 718370)
1st game of the year and people talking about how the saints suck after putting out that kind of effort. Youre probably the biggest offender so I'm not surprised to hear this from you.

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I gotta be honest with you man. It's difficult for me to champion that kind of effort today. I won't say there was a lack of effort, as in quitting. But they played an average team, and that team had all sorts of problems with their offensive line today, yet we still let them shred us. I take no moral victories from that.

Every loss hurts, but these are the kinds that you look back at and say there's no way we should have lost that game.

44Champs 09-11-2016 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 718368)
I wasn't bulled as a kid, but I am a teacher and I don't like to see people do those cowardly types of things

Well i'm a parent so youre not the only one who has the corner against bullying. My comments were solely directed at Rezburn - I dont get where youre coming up w this ganging up BS. So as far as I'm concerned, when you chimed in, seems like you're the one ganging up by getting involved. Go check yourself hypocrite.

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halloween 65 09-11-2016 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 718333)
You won't find more of a diehard fan that me and while I am disappointed and thought we got screwed I am preparing for us to go 15-1.

I think that # will be changing soon.

CharityMike 09-11-2016 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 718370)
1st game of the year and people talking about how the saints suck after putting out that kind of effort.

Are you serious? You are joking right? If you think 500 yards given up by our D is effort, your are the delusional one. Yeah it was the first game, but a continuation from last season. All O and no D.

dizzle88 09-11-2016 04:39 PM

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Brees and the O did enough to win, they should have converted a couple more redzone trips but you should never lose scoring 34 points.

But Dennis Allen is Paytons buddy so nothing will get done.

saintshrimp 09-11-2016 04:39 PM

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Oakland had a ton of penalties called on them or it could have been worse I bet they had 100-125 yards in penalties


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