PFF Grades for the Saints vs Raiders

dizzle88 · 09-13-2016, 09:42 AM

The only play we got any pressure on Derek Carr was the one where we lost contain and he jumped over Harris for a first down.

K Major · 09-13-2016, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The only play we got any pressure on Derek Carr was the one where we lost contain and he jumped over Harris for a first down.

Dizz - Not sure if you had a chance to read this article as it relates to the pass rush or lack thereof.

New Orleans Saints know they have to be better rushing the passer | NOLA.com

dizzle88 · 09-13-2016, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Dizz - Not sure if you had a chance to read this article as it relates to the pass rush or lack thereof.

New Orleans Saints know they have to be better rushing the passer | NOLA.com

Probably the worst excuse I've ever heard!!

The gameplan wasn't to sack him it was to defend him, so we stood there and watched him beat us for 22 4th quarter points.

You don't stop a QB by not trying to sack him, you get to him in the pocket and you'll get in his head.

That right there is why Payton's time is done, The 2009 Sean Payton would have played to win, the last 3 years we have played not to lose and we've lost consistently.

halloween 65 · 09-13-2016, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Probably the worst excuse I've ever heard!!

The gameplan wasn't to sack him it was to defend him, so we stood there and watched him beat us for 22 4th quarter points.

You don't stop a QB by not trying to sack him, you get to him in the pocket and you'll get in his head.

That right there is why Payton's time is done, The 2009 Sean Payton would have played to win, the last 3 years we have played not to lose and we've lost consistently.

I read that article and thought it was funny. Banging him up and getting him gun shy helps alot. Wonder how that game plan will work on qb.'s like Brady, Rothlisburger, Flacco, Rodgers, Manning and the many other qb.'s that will pick a secondary apart with less time that Carr had. Sounds to me Allen thought Carr was going to beat himself, it equaled an epic fail.

K Major · 09-13-2016, 12:04 PM

The final stats were pretty even but there were a few to make note of...

Penalties 14-141 (Oak) 7-53 (Saints)
Rushing 167 (Oak) 88 (Saints)
4th down efficiency 0-0 (Oak) 1-1 (Saints)

K Major · 09-13-2016, 12:10 PM

Saints' fourth-quarter meltdown tackled in this week's Defensive Film Study | NOLA.com

"Carr had at least 4.5 seconds to scan the field, pump fake to his right and then throw to his left. Carr probably could have sat back there for 10 seconds. The pump fake likely kept Byrd on Roberts." - this is a serious concern.

nola_swammi · 09-13-2016, 02:47 PM

They need to start stephone Anthony, the last hope for this defense.

xan · 09-13-2016, 03:00 PM

We need 12 men on the field for defense. And a coach who can't help waste timeouts.

lee909 · 09-13-2016, 03:06 PM

Seeing as we get no pressure with a 7 men up top just have 4 and stick 7 DBs out there

09-13-2016, 09:42 AM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: PFF Grades for the Saints vs Raiders The only play we got any pressure on Derek Carr was the one where we lost contain and he jumped over Harris for a first down.

09-13-2016, 10:32 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,822 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF Grades for the Saints vs Raiders Originally Posted by dizzle88 The only play we got any pressure on Derek Carr was the one where we lost contain and he jumped over Harris for a first down. Dizz - Not sure if you had a chance to read this article as it relates to the pass rush or lack thereof. New Orleans Saints know they have to be better rushing the passer \| NOLA.com dizzle88 likes this.

09-13-2016, 10:37 AM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: PFF Grades for the Saints vs Raiders Originally Posted by K Major Dizz - Not sure if you had a chance to read this article as it relates to the pass rush or lack thereof. New Orleans Saints know they have to be better rushing the passer \| NOLA.com Probably the worst excuse I've ever heard!! The gameplan wasn't to sack him it was to defend him, so we stood there and watched him beat us for 22 4th quarter points. You don't stop a QB by not trying to sack him, you get to him in the pocket and you'll get in his head. That right there is why Payton's time is done, The 2009 Sean Payton would have played to win, the last 3 years we have played not to lose and we've lost consistently.

09-13-2016, 11:54 AM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: PFF Grades for the Saints vs Raiders Originally Posted by dizzle88 Probably the worst excuse I've ever heard!! The gameplan wasn't to sack him it was to defend him, so we stood there and watched him beat us for 22 4th quarter points. You don't stop a QB by not trying to sack him, you get to him in the pocket and you'll get in his head. That right there is why Payton's time is done, The 2009 Sean Payton would have played to win, the last 3 years we have played not to lose and we've lost consistently. I read that article and thought it was funny. Banging him up and getting him gun shy helps alot. Wonder how that game plan will work on qb.'s like Brady, Rothlisburger, Flacco, Rodgers, Manning and the many other qb.'s that will pick a secondary apart with less time that Carr had. Sounds to me Allen thought Carr was going to beat himself, it equaled an epic fail. dizzle88 likes this.

09-13-2016, 12:04 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,822 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF Grades for the Saints vs Raiders The final stats were pretty even but there were a few to make note of... Penalties 14-141 (Oak) 7-53 (Saints) Rushing 167 (Oak) 88 (Saints) 4th down efficiency 0-0 (Oak) 1-1 (Saints)

09-13-2016, 12:10 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,822 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF Grades for the Saints vs Raiders Saints' fourth-quarter meltdown tackled in this week's Defensive Film Study \| NOLA.com "Carr had at least 4.5 seconds to scan the field, pump fake to his right and then throw to his left. Carr probably could have sat back there for 10 seconds. The pump fake likely kept Byrd on Roberts." - this is a serious concern.

09-13-2016, 02:47 PM	#7
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: PFF Grades for the Saints vs Raiders They need to start stephone Anthony, the last hope for this defense.

09-13-2016, 03:00 PM	#8
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: PFF Grades for the Saints vs Raiders We need 12 men on the field for defense. And a coach who can't help waste timeouts.

09-13-2016, 03:06 PM	#9
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: PFF Grades for the Saints vs Raiders Seeing as we get no pressure with a 7 men up top just have 4 and stick 7 DBs out there

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