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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; $40,405,183 in dead money ?? And we wonder why we can't compete. This franchise is a mess....

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Old 09-14-2016, 07:15 AM   #1
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$40,405,183 in dead money ?? And we wonder why we can't compete.

This franchise is a mess.
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I know it's sort of a separate issue, but insult to injury is that we never seem to lose guys to free agency the normal way and get the compensatory picks the other teams have. We always begin draft day with one strike against us.
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Does anyone think it's funny (sarcasm) that Evans is counting for over $5 million of dead money and he is on our active roster
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:42 AM   #4
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Does anyone think it's funny (sarcasm) that Evans is counting for over $5 million of dead money and he is on our active roster
Yes he is like a salary cap zombie!
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:49 AM   #5
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Dead Money (Dept for services not rendered) is going to be the down fall of this franchise. 40 million.... FORTY MILLION! Maybe Loomis isn't the genius we think he is. Why does our O&D lines suck? Why does our ENTIRE Defense suck? Because we can't afford the good players. I'm sorry, but having one great/good player (Drew Bre$$) isn't going to win jack squat! I'm not dooming and glooming about the season after one game, but this team is getting worse and worse every year. It is getting hard to watch this team play. It feels like we are filling roster spots with "Well, he won't cost us much" type of players.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:46 AM   #6
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Dead Money (Dept for services not rendered) is going to be the down fall of this franchise. 40 million.... FORTY MILLION! Maybe Loomis isn't the genius we think he is. Why does our O&D lines suck? Why does our ENTIRE Defense suck? Because we can't afford the good players. I'm sorry, but having one great/good player (Drew Bre$$) isn't going to win jack squat! I'm not dooming and glooming about the season after one game, but this team is getting worse and worse every year. It is getting hard to watch this team play. It feels like we are filling roster spots with "Well, he won't cost us much" type of players.
Tell me one single good defensive player that dead money kept us from signing? The Saints signed the top rated defensive lineman free agent in the off-season. The Saints signed the top rated free agent LB in the off-season. The Saints attempted to sign (with money not being the issue) the top free agent CB in the off season.

This team is not getting worse. This team is greatly improved over last year's team and that is even with losing two of our top defensive draft choices to injury prior to the start of the season. THAT has nothing to do with dead money. Losing Breaux in the first half of the first game has nothing to do with dead money.

I repeat, tell me what outstanding defensive pieces the Saints missed out on because of dead money.

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Old 09-14-2016, 12:06 PM   #7
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Tell me one single good defensive player that dead money kept us from signing? The Saints signed the top rated defensive lineman free agent in the off-season. The Saints signed the top rated free agent LB in the off-season.
That's not true at all. Malik Jackson, Damon Harrison, Olivier Vernon, Jerrell Freeman and Danny Trevathan were all better D-Line and LB prospects. A team like the Giants had an atrocious defense and actually had cap space so they were able to sign a couple of those guys. Of course we'll just have to wait and see if the investment was worth it for them.
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That's not true at all. Malik Jackson, Damon Harrison, Olivier Vernon, Jerrell Freeman and Danny Trevathan were all better D-Line and LB prospects. A team like the Giants had an atrocious defense and actually had cap space so they were able to sign a couple of those guys. Of course we'll just have to wait and see if the investment was worth it for them.
and why did they have cap space of wait for it NO DEAD MONEY
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A team like the Giants had an atrocious defense and actually had cap space so they were able to sign a couple of those guys. Of course we'll just have to wait and see if the investment was worth it for them.
From what I saw last week against the Cows... money appears to have been well spent. Harrison, Hankins were disruptive against a very good O line.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:21 AM   #10
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Finally everyone is awake on this issue! I welcome you all with open arms...
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