K Major

I'm curious about this myself, because I wonder how much longer the organization will go before they might start to consider maybe, just maybe the issue(s) are some of the coaches. Players come and go but some coaches remain there and yet the results are the same or similar. Often (especially in the past 3+ years) I've wondered if the organization is just too loyal to some of these coaches.

blackangold

The best thing that happen to this organization wasn't Sean or Mickey, it was actually Greg Williams.

The Dude

I think we miss Kromer too although until this season our offense has continued to be bad ass. As soon as Kromer left though Drew started throwing a lot more interceptions based on pressure.

How Vitt has kept his job baffles me.

AsylumGuido

Kromer was with the Saints 2008-2012.

Brees interceptions:

2008 17
2009 11
2010 22
2012 14
2013 12
2014 17
1015 11

With Kromer averaged 16 picks per season.

Without Kromer averaged 13.3 picks per season.

Brees averaged 2.7 more picks per season with Kromer as coach including the two worst years of his career (2010 and 2012).

Don't let facts stand in the way of a good argument.

hagan714

I agree LOYALTY has been a fault in so many cases. Overpaying players for winning the super bowl and then over paying FA to return.

To manage a cap one must use the draft. NE may strike out a bunch but they do hit their mark with so many picks also. Keeps the cap in flux and allows them to case FA as needed. They arrange to cap in such a way that they have the ability to case high price Free agents every 3 or 4 years.

When they do sign FA they do not over pay in the lean years. Nor do they sign them to long contracts. The vets they chase are really nothing special either. Just solid players in the back 9 of their careers.

To make a trade they really need to be sold on a player and the trade must have a safety blanket built into it. They love raiding teams like Cleveland who go through house cleaning with a new coaching staff.

OG Jonathan Cooper and a second-round draft pick for Chandler Jones Here is a great example of trading from strength to improve weakness and fore sght in cap control.

Cooper may yet be able to rescue his career if he gets past the leg issues. Even if he ends up as a OG/OC back up in the future he will be cheap to keep. If not They pocketed a 2nd and free up cap space to sign their key FA in 2017. So just to be safe they traded for

Barkevious Mingo for a fifth-round pick? to fill the void in already deep young position.

So worse case the Pats get Mingo and a second for Jones and a 5th. Mingo will be cheaper to keep.

Pats do not over pay. They do not keep trouble and no one is safe. BUT they always cover their butts in more way than one. Cap management is always involved in the picture with a player moved and a pick to replace a risk that did not work out. Kicking the Cap can down the road is not in their nature. Dead cap is not acceptable,

Granted they have the best coaching staff in the NFL. But they are the master of making runs for the title.

These are gambling moves I can at the very least understand and accept the cost as a fair risk.

Saints? grrrrr

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins