Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints

Lord_Saint83 · 09-26-2016, 11:15 PM

And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

jeanpierre · 09-26-2016, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

That's a great point...

Look, I wasn't happy when Dennis Allen was made DC and we were changing the defense, yet again, knowing we just spend the last three drafts getting players to fit a 3-4...

But D.A. is in now and we've made our change, let's just see it through and not reverse course again...

dizzle88 · 09-26-2016, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.

jeanpierre · 09-26-2016, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.

And this is where I fault Loomis and ultimately, Benson...

Any team that has given one man too much personnel power has failed in this league (will cite Chip Kelly in Philadelphia as the latest example of this)...

Belichick, to his credit, brings in bright personnel people to challenge him and brings something other than "I'm the son of Coach (Fill In Name)" types...

Payton is still one of the best game planners, schemers, he just beats himself before he gets to the field with really bad personnel decisions and doesn't have a strong enough personality in a GM to take him to task or question him...

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either That's a great point... Look, I wasn't happy when Dennis Allen was made DC and we were changing the defense, yet again, knowing we just spend the last three drafts getting players to fit a 3-4... But D.A. is in now and we've made our change, let's just see it through and not reverse course again... CharityMike likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,693	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either Because New England plan for the future accordingly In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players. Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.

09-26-2016, 11:22 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 Because New England plan for the future accordingly In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players. Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him. And this is where I fault Loomis and ultimately, Benson... Any team that has given one man too much personnel power has failed in this league (will cite Chip Kelly in Philadelphia as the latest example of this)... Belichick, to his credit, brings in bright personnel people to challenge him and brings something other than "I'm the son of Coach (Fill In Name)" types... Payton is still one of the best game planners, schemers, he just beats himself before he gets to the field with really bad personnel decisions and doesn't have a strong enough personality in a GM to take him to task or question him... dizzle88 and Lord_Saint83 like this.
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