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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either Because New England plan for the future accordingly In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players ...

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Old 09-26-2016, 11:18 PM   #1
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Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 View Post
And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either
Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.
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Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints

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Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.
And this is where I fault Loomis and ultimately, Benson...

Any team that has given one man too much personnel power has failed in this league (will cite Chip Kelly in Philadelphia as the latest example of this)...

Belichick, to his credit, brings in bright personnel people to challenge him and brings something other than "I'm the son of Coach (Fill In Name)" types...

Payton is still one of the best game planners, schemers, he just beats himself before he gets to the field with really bad personnel decisions and doesn't have a strong enough personality in a GM to take him to task or question him...
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