Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams?

Danno · 09-26-2016, 08:52 PM

Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect?

Seer1 · 09-26-2016, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect?

I've lost track. Who all isn't playing?

Halo · 09-27-2016, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

I've lost track. Who all isn't playing?

Started early, before game 2 of preseason. By end of the first regular season game we lost both starting corners, starting LB Kihaha, starting Tight End Manu, Jenkins out, Keenan Lewis may never recover from his injury so we cut him, Swann gone, Delvin Breaux GONE.... Byrd did come back to play.

That's a lot of starters and rotating backups GONE for the season or forever.

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Not making excuses, just reality.

dizzle88 · 09-26-2016, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect?

It's a valid point but it gives Sean Payton an excuse for a loss, like he needs one.

Week 1 - offense great, D sucks
Week 2 - D is great, offense sucks
Week 3 - Offense is okay, D and special teams sucks

For the past 3 years, I've never seen us play as a team, if one side excels, the other fails, it starts with Payton.

captainshawn · 09-27-2016, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

It's a valid point but it gives Sean Payton an excuse for a loss, like he needs one.

Week 1 - offense great, D sucks
Week 2 - D is great, offense sucks
Week 3 - Offense is okay, D and special teams sucks

For the past 3 years, I've never seen us play as a team, if one side excels, the other fails, it starts with Payton.

D & ST did indeed SUCK. However, to say the O was only ok is laughable

474 total yards
377 passing
115 rushing
32 1st downs
32:34 TOP
and 32 points

The stupid muffed punt/keystone cops play and the pick 6 are what doomed us. Without those two play's, we win.

We lost the first two games by a combined 4 points.
I have not lost hope and believe this can be turned around.

SmashMouth · 09-26-2016, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect?

Can Bama give the Saints a hand?

saintshrimp · 09-26-2016, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect?

Excuses excuses excuses when will you and that other guy admit this is a God awful team

|Mitch| · 09-26-2016, 11:40 PM

That was all Spags defense; no blitzing hoping the front 4 could get pressure.

There at the end is when Allen started bringing a little pressure

Danno · 09-27-2016, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

Excuses excuses excuses when will you and that other guy admit this is a God awful team

When we don't suffer an inordinate amount of excessive injuries to our starters that other teams don't suffer, and still suck?

Why are posters here too dumb to understand that? My 12 year old understands that.

Are you and the other guys really that dumb?

burningmetal · 09-27-2016, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect?

Injuries make it harder, we all get it. But those are still supposed to be professionals out there. So to answer your question, the expectation is that you put up SOME kind of resistance.

They managed to keep the Giants out of the endzone last week. They bent a ton, but didn't break, and we all applauded them for it. Then they come home for a prime time game against a team they have owned, and they do absolutely nothing to stop that team.

The D-line can't make any excuses. They are missing a player (Rankins) who no one even knows yet how good he is. There was supposed to be an improved pass rush, and it just hasn't happened.

No question the injuries hurt bad. But you can't be non competitive.

09-26-2016, 08:52 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect? Halo, Beastmode, Utah_Saint and 1 others like this.

09-26-2016, 08:56 PM	#2
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by Danno Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect? I've lost track. Who all isn't playing?

09-27-2016, 12:01 AM	#3
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,895 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by Seer1 I've lost track. Who all isn't playing? Started early, before game 2 of preseason. By end of the first regular season game we lost both starting corners, starting LB Kihaha, starting Tight End Manu, Jenkins out, Keenan Lewis may never recover from his injury so we cut him, Swann gone, Delvin Breaux GONE.... Byrd did come back to play. That's a lot of starters and rotating backups GONE for the season or forever. http://blackandgold.com/saints/79243-growing-list.html Not making excuses, just reality. saintfan, jnormand and Utah_Saint like this.

09-26-2016, 09:19 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by Danno Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect? It's a valid point but it gives Sean Payton an excuse for a loss, like he needs one. Week 1 - offense great, D sucks Week 2 - D is great, offense sucks Week 3 - Offense is okay, D and special teams sucks For the past 3 years, I've never seen us play as a team, if one side excels, the other fails, it starts with Payton.

09-27-2016, 10:35 AM	#5
captainshawn Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lake Hermitage, La. Posts: 289	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by dizzle88 It's a valid point but it gives Sean Payton an excuse for a loss, like he needs one. Week 1 - offense great, D sucks Week 2 - D is great, offense sucks Week 3 - Offense is okay, D and special teams sucks For the past 3 years, I've never seen us play as a team, if one side excels, the other fails, it starts with Payton. D & ST did indeed SUCK. However, to say the O was only ok is laughable 474 total yards 377 passing 115 rushing 32 1st downs 32:34 TOP and 32 points The stupid muffed punt/keystone cops play and the pick 6 are what doomed us. Without those two play's, we win. We lost the first two games by a combined 4 points. I have not lost hope and believe this can be turned around.

09-26-2016, 11:17 PM	#6
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,813 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by Danno Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect? Can Bama give the Saints a hand?

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saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by Danno Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect? Excuses excuses excuses when will you and that other guy admit this is a God awful team K Major likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? That was all Spags defense; no blitzing hoping the front 4 could get pressure. There at the end is when Allen started bringing a little pressure

09-27-2016, 08:03 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by saintshrimp Excuses excuses excuses when will you and that other guy admit this is a God awful team When we don't suffer an inordinate amount of excessive injuries to our starters that other teams don't suffer, and still suck? Why are posters here too dumb to understand that? My 12 year old understands that. Are you and the other guys really that dumb?

09-27-2016, 12:50 AM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by Danno Two thirds of the defense is out. What did you expect? Injuries make it harder, we all get it. But those are still supposed to be professionals out there. So to answer your question, the expectation is that you put up SOME kind of resistance. They managed to keep the Giants out of the endzone last week. They bent a ton, but didn't break, and we all applauded them for it. Then they come home for a prime time game against a team they have owned, and they do absolutely nothing to stop that team. The D-line can't make any excuses. They are missing a player (Rankins) who no one even knows yet how good he is. There was supposed to be an improved pass rush, and it just hasn't happened. No question the injuries hurt bad. But you can't be non competitive. K Major likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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