Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams?

Utah_Saint · 09-27-2016, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

What is latter day Williams?

You mean the best defenses this team has seen in decades?

Greg Williams was the best thing that happen to the Saints, since he left we have been an average franchise at best. The success from 2009-2011 was in large part due to GW not Payton.

Durning Gregg Williams tenure as Defensive Coordinator the Saints Defense in yards was ranked:

2009 - 25th
2010 - 4th
2011 - 24th

During that same time the Offense was ranked:

2009 - 1st
2010 - 6th
2011 - 1st

2009 the Saints won the Super Bowl
2010 the Saints were knocked out of the playoffs by Seattle 41-36
2011 the Saints were knocked out of the playoffs by San Fran 32-36

Gregg Williams was loud and unconventional but it was the offense that carried those teams. In 2010 and 2011 it was the defense that failed and got the Saints knocked out of the playoffs.

Halo · 09-27-2016, 12:33 AM

latter-day saints?

Rugby Saint II · 09-27-2016, 04:16 PM

Williams wasn't loyal to the Saints. Payton would intentionally feed him misinformation at draft time. Payton had a strict rule no cell phones in the draft room but Williams flagrantly disregarded him and would feed info to the media. Payton had no respect for the man.

blackangold · 09-27-2016, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Williams wasn't loyal to the Saints. Payton would intentionally feed him misinformation at draft time. Payton had a strict rule no cell phones in the draft room but Williams flagrantly disregarded him and would feed info to the media. Payton had no respect for the man.

lol
Source?
Williams was what made this team great. Take away the 09-11 seasons without Williams.

Thirty3 · 09-27-2016, 04:33 PM

TWO PLAYS COST THE GAME. Special Teams fumble on 11 yard line. Pick Six. Remove those two plays we win. PERIOD.

blackangold · 09-27-2016, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

TWO PLAYS COST THE GAME. Special Teams fumble on 11 yard line. Pick Six. Remove those two plays we win. PERIOD.

Man, if we could only choose to take away plays every season we might be a decent team...

0-3

09-27-2016, 03:04 AM	#1
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by blackangold What is latter day Williams? You mean the best defenses this team has seen in decades? Greg Williams was the best thing that happen to the Saints, since he left we have been an average franchise at best. The success from 2009-2011 was in large part due to GW not Payton. Durning Gregg Williams tenure as Defensive Coordinator the Saints Defense in yards was ranked: 2009 - 25th 2010 - 4th 2011 - 24th During that same time the Offense was ranked: 2009 - 1st 2010 - 6th 2011 - 1st 2009 the Saints won the Super Bowl 2010 the Saints were knocked out of the playoffs by Seattle 41-36 2011 the Saints were knocked out of the playoffs by San Fran 32-36 Gregg Williams was loud and unconventional but it was the offense that carried those teams. In 2010 and 2011 it was the defense that failed and got the Saints knocked out of the playoffs. Halo likes this.

09-27-2016, 12:33 AM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? latter-day saints?

09-27-2016, 04:16 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Williams wasn't loyal to the Saints. Payton would intentionally feed him misinformation at draft time. Payton had a strict rule no cell phones in the draft room but Williams flagrantly disregarded him and would feed info to the media. Payton had no respect for the man.

09-27-2016, 06:45 PM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Williams wasn't loyal to the Saints. Payton would intentionally feed him misinformation at draft time. Payton had a strict rule no cell phones in the draft room but Williams flagrantly disregarded him and would feed info to the media. Payton had no respect for the man. lol Source? Williams was what made this team great. Take away the 09-11 seasons without Williams.

09-27-2016, 04:33 PM	#5
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? TWO PLAYS COST THE GAME. Special Teams fumble on 11 yard line. Pick Six. Remove those two plays we win. PERIOD. captainshawn likes this.
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09-27-2016, 06:46 PM	#6
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Defense: More Spaglike or Latter Day Williams? Originally Posted by Thirty3 TWO PLAYS COST THE GAME. Special Teams fumble on 11 yard line. Pick Six. Remove those two plays we win. PERIOD. Man, if we could only choose to take away plays every season we might be a decent team... 0-3

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