0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?

burningmetal · 09-27-2016, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

In 2014 the Saints had the #1 offense in the league.
In 2015 the Saints had the #2 offense in the league.
How "inefficient" are they if they're a top 2 offense in the league?
And you're saying if the top offense in the league is better than ours, it's "embarrassing"?

And as for the offensive line, they has allowed only 4 sacks so far this season. Only five teams have fewer. 10 teams have already doubled that or more. And the Saints, as a team, are averaging 4.2 yards per carry. Only 8 teams are averaging more than that. The teams passer rating (Drew) is 105.1 4th best in the league. The offensive line is a lot closer to being great than it is to being bad by any realistic definition.

Again, if you're "frustrated" or "embarrassed" by what the offense is doing, you're in for a lot of disappointment in your NFL expectations.

This isn't fantasy football. Offensive rank is based on yards alone. We threw the ball 54 times last night.... You find me a team that throws the ball 50 plus times and doesn't put up at least 400 yards. Defenses are going to give up yards in this league, with the the rules, especially when the ball is being thrown that much. That extends the game tremendously. Running the ball runs clock.

And yeah, I know what the team is averaging in yards per rush. So why do we abandon it when it is actually working, and go back to dumping the ball off to guys who are being swarmed over? Frustrating, is it not?

We have not been elite in scoring points for a few years now. Above average, yes, but with the amount of money invested in Drew and his toys it's really not near what it should be.

And yes, anytime you have the Falcons ranking ahead of you, it's embarrassing. They have a QB known for choking, and a coaching staff that isn't exactly known for it's offensive prowess.

A.8Manning · 09-27-2016, 04:38 AM

0-3...and only one game back in their own division.
its not that bad. Theyll be 1-3 next week and either be 2 behind atlanta or just one behind everyone.

keep your shirt on.

spkb25 · 09-27-2016, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by A.8Manning

0-3...and only one game back in their own division.
its not that bad. Theyll be 1-3 next week and either be 2 behind atlanta or just one behind everyone.

keep your shirt on.

First this is not based in reality, but even I were to pretend it was, we are two games back not one, and we haven't won a game

dizzle88 · 09-27-2016, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

First this is not based in reality, but even I were to pretend it was, we are two games back not one, and we haven't won a game

I honestly can't look at a game and say that's a win right there, the defense is worse than last year!! How is that even possible?!?

spkb25 · 09-27-2016, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I honestly can't look at a game and say that's a win right there, the defense is worse than last year!! How is that even possible?!?

Injuries aren't helping. 2 top cb's out and 1 of 2 safeties, plus d lineman, but yes, it still was exceptionally bad last night

K Major · 09-27-2016, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Injuries aren't helping. 2 top cb's out and 1 of 2 safeties, plus d lineman, but yes, it still was exceptionally bad last night

Trust me, I get the injuries that has plagued our team thus far but exactly how do they relate to the special teams incompetence which was a big factor and momentum swing last night?

As previous posters have stated .. poor coaching and the lack of depth are playing a big part in the teams failures so far.

A.8Manning · 09-27-2016, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

First this is not based in reality, but even I were to pretend it was, we are two games back not one, and we haven't won a game

what's not based in reality? I just gave you the actual math of the situation.

they will be 1-3 as easy as pie..

i've never made pie.probably not easy for me..but you get what I mean.

and I'd rather have Atlanta beat Panthers anyway.

K Major · 09-27-2016, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by A.8Manning

0-3...and only one game back in their own division.
its not that bad. Theyll be 1-3 next week and either be 2 behind atlanta or just one behind everyone.

keep your shirt on.

Do you really believe this?

spkb25 · 09-27-2016, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Do you really believe this?

sounds like it could be a second screen name for Guido...may not be, but certainly sounds identical

jnormand · 09-27-2016, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

sounds like it could be a second screen name for Guido...may not be, but certainly sounds identical

Maybe he's just trying to be positive. There's nothing wrong with that. My hopes for the season are hurting. But I'm trying to have a little. It makes the season a little more enjoyable. For me anyway.

09-27-2016, 03:33 PM	#1
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint In 2014 the Saints had the #1 offense in the league. In 2015 the Saints had the #2 offense in the league. How "inefficient" are they if they're a top 2 offense in the league? And you're saying if the top offense in the league is better than ours, it's "embarrassing"? And as for the offensive line, they has allowed only 4 sacks so far this season. Only five teams have fewer. 10 teams have already doubled that or more. And the Saints, as a team, are averaging 4.2 yards per carry. Only 8 teams are averaging more than that. The teams passer rating (Drew) is 105.1 4th best in the league. The offensive line is a lot closer to being great than it is to being bad by any realistic definition. Again, if you're "frustrated" or "embarrassed" by what the offense is doing, you're in for a lot of disappointment in your NFL expectations. This isn't fantasy football. Offensive rank is based on yards alone. We threw the ball 54 times last night.... You find me a team that throws the ball 50 plus times and doesn't put up at least 400 yards. Defenses are going to give up yards in this league, with the the rules, especially when the ball is being thrown that much. That extends the game tremendously. Running the ball runs clock. And yeah, I know what the team is averaging in yards per rush. So why do we abandon it when it is actually working, and go back to dumping the ball off to guys who are being swarmed over? Frustrating, is it not? We have not been elite in scoring points for a few years now. Above average, yes, but with the amount of money invested in Drew and his toys it's really not near what it should be. And yes, anytime you have the Falcons ranking ahead of you, it's embarrassing. They have a QB known for choking, and a coaching staff that isn't exactly known for it's offensive prowess.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

09-27-2016, 04:38 AM	#2
A.8Manning 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 120	Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016? 0-3...and only one game back in their own division. its not that bad. Theyll be 1-3 next week and either be 2 behind atlanta or just one behind everyone. keep your shirt on. hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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09-27-2016, 04:57 AM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016? Originally Posted by A.8Manning 0-3...and only one game back in their own division. its not that bad. Theyll be 1-3 next week and either be 2 behind atlanta or just one behind everyone. keep your shirt on. First this is not based in reality, but even I were to pretend it was, we are two games back not one, and we haven't won a game CharityMike and ctsaint01 like this.

09-27-2016, 05:29 AM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016? Originally Posted by spkb25 First this is not based in reality, but even I were to pretend it was, we are two games back not one, and we haven't won a game I honestly can't look at a game and say that's a win right there, the defense is worse than last year!! How is that even possible?!?

09-27-2016, 10:14 AM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016? Originally Posted by dizzle88 I honestly can't look at a game and say that's a win right there, the defense is worse than last year!! How is that even possible?!? Injuries aren't helping. 2 top cb's out and 1 of 2 safeties, plus d lineman, but yes, it still was exceptionally bad last night

09-27-2016, 11:50 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016? Originally Posted by spkb25 Injuries aren't helping. 2 top cb's out and 1 of 2 safeties, plus d lineman, but yes, it still was exceptionally bad last night Trust me, I get the injuries that has plagued our team thus far but exactly how do they relate to the special teams incompetence which was a big factor and momentum swing last night? As previous posters have stated .. poor coaching and the lack of depth are playing a big part in the teams failures so far. CharityMike likes this.

09-27-2016, 09:46 PM	#7
A.8Manning 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 120	Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016? Originally Posted by spkb25 First this is not based in reality, but even I were to pretend it was, we are two games back not one, and we haven't won a game what's not based in reality? I just gave you the actual math of the situation. they will be 1-3 as easy as pie.. i've never made pie.probably not easy for me..but you get what I mean. and I'd rather have Atlanta beat Panthers anyway.
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09-27-2016, 08:38 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016? Originally Posted by A.8Manning 0-3...and only one game back in their own division. its not that bad. Theyll be 1-3 next week and either be 2 behind atlanta or just one behind everyone. keep your shirt on. Do you really believe this? spkb25, dizzle88 and ctsaint01 like this.

09-27-2016, 10:16 AM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016? Originally Posted by K Major Do you really believe this? sounds like it could be a second screen name for Guido...may not be, but certainly sounds identical K Major likes this.

09-27-2016, 10:54 AM	#10
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,735	Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016? Originally Posted by spkb25 sounds like it could be a second screen name for Guido...may not be, but certainly sounds identical Maybe he's just trying to be positive. There's nothing wrong with that. My hopes for the season are hurting. But I'm trying to have a little. It makes the season a little more enjoyable. For me anyway.

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