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saintsfan1976 09-26-2016 10:42 PM

0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Well?

spkb25 09-26-2016 10:43 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
at 7-9 mid round pick, sure we always do that

saintsfan1976 09-26-2016 10:45 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Gotta admit this year has been a particularly bad run of luck

frydaddy 09-26-2016 10:49 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Some.. less and less each week though. We are decimated by injury and with a team as young as this one it's been even worse. Most of the injuries have been vets, if not starters. Too much to ask of a bunch of kids to keep this team afloat I'm afraid. We'll win some games, they'll probably be stressful and ugly, but we'll come away with a few. Our best hope is if we can survive long enough to get a few guys healthy then try to put together a run in the second half of the season. Hoping and praying for the best, but it's gonna take some serious luck.

woody 09-26-2016 10:49 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
It's nice to have a bunch of good locker room guys, but I wish there were a few bad asses on D.

dizzle88 09-26-2016 10:50 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Here's the dilemma

SP is coaching so thats frustrating in itself

If we battle back to 7-9 we miss a game changing prospect, Payton will just move them to a different position regardless.

However none of us want to see us go with less than 9 wins, i honestly don't know if we will win a game.

If we get a top 5 pick, Payton needs to be gone before then as he and the coaching staff will just screw them up!

saintsfan1976 09-26-2016 10:51 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Stop thinking a top 5 draft pick will change this team.

There were several mid to late round rookies who played a great game tonight.

blackangold 09-26-2016 10:52 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
This was the "easy" part of our schedule lol...

It's more likely we go 2-14 than even get to 7-9.

I am ready for the regime change but that wont happen... 3 piss poor season in a row and nothing will change next year.

RailBoss 09-26-2016 10:55 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
List of local bridges no waiting just jump.

Almonaster Avenue Bridge

Chef Menteur Bridge
Claiborne Avenue Bridge
Crescent City Connection
CSX Chef Menteur Pass Bridge
CSX Rigolets Pass Bridge

Danziger Bridge

Florida Avenue Bridge
Fort Pike Bridge

Green Bridge (New Orleans)

I-10 High Rise Bridge
I-10 Twin Span Bridge

Maestri Bridge

Norfolk Southern Lake Pontchartrain Bridge

St. Claude Avenue Bridge
Seabrook Bridge
Seabrook Railroad Bridge

The Dude 09-26-2016 10:56 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
It will be cool watching some of the young guys mature. We can also play spoiler to some teams. This is not a bad team as in its not the same type of bad team we have had in the last few years. This is a beat up unlucky team with too much inexperience

neugey 09-26-2016 10:58 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
With Brees under center we are good spoiler material if teams start to look past us.

CharityMike 09-26-2016 11:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 721511)
List of local bridges no waiting just jump.

Almonaster Avenue Bridge

Chef Menteur Bridge
Claiborne Avenue Bridge
Crescent City Connection
CSX Chef Menteur Pass Bridge
CSX Rigolets Pass Bridge

Danziger Bridge

Florida Avenue Bridge
Fort Pike Bridge

Green Bridge (New Orleans)

I-10 High Rise Bridge
I-10 Twin Span Bridge

Maestri Bridge

Norfolk Southern Lake Pontchartrain Bridge

St. Claude Avenue Bridge
Seabrook Bridge
Seabrook Railroad Bridge

You forgot the Causeway :-)

K Major 09-26-2016 11:06 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Without a pass rush or the ability to get anywhere near a QB ...nope.

Defense continues to be a major problem down in New Orleans & Byrd has turned into Brandon Browner.

NOLA54 09-26-2016 11:07 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

RailBoss 09-26-2016 11:12 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 721520)
You forgot the Causeway :-)

Causeway is restricted to players only.

RailBoss 09-26-2016 11:14 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Hey heard any good jokes lately?

dizzle88 09-26-2016 11:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 721529)
Hey heard any good jokes lately?

Sean Payton.

pherein 09-26-2016 11:15 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
ass kicked at home with all the advantages for a team to win. Nope we are done. Can never get that day back, and SP looked drunk in the presser.

neugey 09-26-2016 11:21 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
The funny thing, the Falcons showed us what we're doing wrong. The Falcons moved with purpose, got the plays in fast and mixed it up well, kept the defense off balance.

Why do we do we use up almost the whole play clock just to throw a timing route or just throw the same slant to Michael Thomas again and again?

The key is executing faster, change it up, be less deliberate. Atlanta looked like a high-powered college offense tonight - that's what we need to tap into.

leilung 09-26-2016 11:32 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Just way too banged up on D to make any noise this season.

|Mitch| 09-26-2016 11:34 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 721548)
Just way too banged up on D to make any noise this season.

Even if injuries didn't decimate the team, I doubt they'd make the impact we all want...

We have a lot of young inexperienced players who are only gonna get better with more snaps

leilung 09-26-2016 11:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 721541)
The key is executing faster, change it up, be less deliberate. Atlanta looked like a high-powered college offense tonight - that's what we need to tap into.

That has never been Drew's game. BTW, Philly had the same thing you're describing with Chip Kelly and they ran him out of town on a rail once the rest of the league caught on. I doubt they could have done that crap if we were at full strength.

neugey 09-26-2016 11:50 PM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 721553)
That has never been Drew's game. BTW, Philly had the same thing you're describing with Chip Kelly and they ran him out of town on a rail once the rest of the league caught on. I doubt they could have done that crap if we were at full strength.

Those are fair points. I just felt frustrated watching the Saints tonight - taking a lot of time off the play clock to execute very ordinary throws. Especially when we go 5 wide, allowing the defense forever to get setup is not a good thing.

burningmetal 09-27-2016 12:02 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
One of the things that frustrates me the most is, despite Drew's ability, there seem to be a ton of of passes that are predetermined. I am aware that on every play there is a primary receiver, but I'm talking about deciding before the play that he's going to throw to that receiver, no matter what.

Drew is too good to just bail out and check down for a 1 yard gain or 3 yard loss like he kept doing tonight. Our offense has done a ton of that during this three year run of losing.

There are times when he has to get rid of it, and then there are times where he isn't under pressure but he just dumps it off without even looking downfield.

Then there are those quick slant routes that have been mentioned in this thread that lead too much trouble to keep running it as often as they do. All that predictability is killing drives. With this defense, the offense can't afford to stop itself.

Utah_Saint 09-27-2016 02:44 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 721566)
One of the things that frustrates me the most is, despite Drew's ability, there seem to be a ton of of passes that are predetermined. I am aware that on every play there is a primary receiver, but I'm talking about deciding before the play that he's going to throw to that receiver, no matter what.

Drew is too good to just bail out and check down for a 1 yard gain or 3 yard loss like he kept doing tonight. Our offense has done a ton of that during this three year run of losing.

There are times when he has to get rid of it, and then there are times where he isn't under pressure but he just dumps it off without even looking downfield.

Then there are those quick slant routes that have been mentioned in this thread that lead too much trouble to keep running it as often as they do. All that predictability is killing drives. With this defense, the offense can't afford to stop itself.

36/54, 354 yards 3 touchdowns, 7-11 on third down. The Saints only punted twice. If that kinda performance frustrates you, you're gonna be disappointed a lot.

A.8Manning 09-27-2016 04:38 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
0-3...and only one game back in their own division.
its not that bad. Theyll be 1-3 next week and either be 2 behind atlanta or just one behind everyone.

keep your shirt on.

spkb25 09-27-2016 04:57 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 721581)
0-3...and only one game back in their own division.
its not that bad. Theyll be 1-3 next week and either be 2 behind atlanta or just one behind everyone.

keep your shirt on.

First this is not based in reality, but even I were to pretend it was, we are two games back not one, and we haven't won a game

dizzle88 09-27-2016 05:29 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 721582)
First this is not based in reality, but even I were to pretend it was, we are two games back not one, and we haven't won a game

I honestly can't look at a game and say that's a win right there, the defense is worse than last year!! How is that even possible?!?

burningmetal 09-27-2016 08:00 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 721578)
36/54, 354 yards 3 touchdowns, 7-11 on third down. The Saints only punted twice. If that kinda performance frustrates you, you're gonna be disappointed a lot.

So you have decided that this one game is all the sample size I'm using after back to back losing seasons and an 0-3 start this year? Try again.

54 passes to get to 354 yards proves my point, however. That is horribly inefficient, and that happens too often. We had two punts, a turnover on downs and an interception which came on one of those predictable plays. That throw simply should never have been made but he tried to force it in, anyway.

That's four stops. How many times did we stop the Falcons? Is their offense better than ours? If so, that's embarrassing.

But how about last week's performance? Where was this vaunted offense when we needed them then? The offensive line is light years away from where it used to be in the glory days, but just as big of a problem has been this check down passing game and all the predictability. The aggressive play calling shows up sporadically and then disappears for long stretches.

dizzle88 09-27-2016 08:27 AM

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My expectations for this team have been severely lowered after the now 0-3 start.

I find myself not getting as frustrated as I normally would watching it last night, purely because I expected us to find a way to lose....and we did.

So from now on it will be a nice surprise if we win, as my expectations are probably on par with what the Raiders or Jags fans have been over the past decade.

I just feel bad for Brees, we have wasted several years of this first ballot HOFer's career with poor defensive play.

K Major 09-27-2016 08:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 721581)
0-3...and only one game back in their own division.
its not that bad. Theyll be 1-3 next week and either be 2 behind atlanta or just one behind everyone.

keep your shirt on.

Do you really believe this?

Euphoria 09-27-2016 09:03 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
This is funny...

I thought I would be the mose negative person here. But in reality we have a lot of key injuries but that isn't to say we wouldn't be much better either.

We have been primed for a key turnover and over-haul of this team and everyone just wants to put Bree's under center and hope for the best. He can't do it all himself!

Time to make some drastic decisions.

jonnyrotten 09-27-2016 09:10 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
HOPE???? HOPE??????? Heck no there is no HOPE man!

spkb25 09-27-2016 10:14 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 721585)
I honestly can't look at a game and say that's a win right there, the defense is worse than last year!! How is that even possible?!?

Injuries aren't helping. 2 top cb's out and 1 of 2 safeties, plus d lineman, but yes, it still was exceptionally bad last night

hagan714 09-27-2016 10:14 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Muffed punt was a 7 point gift
Int for was a 10 point swing at the least. the way the game was going 14 point swing is more like it

that was 17 to a 21 point swing right there.

So all in all with injuries and all I think it was not that bad of a showing.

Peat proved he is a LT and a LT only. Terron to RT might be a better move to think about. Might help that knee out. Slide Streif inside to LOG. Chip block or TE help for Peat might be needed.

Still not liking Anthony at OLB

DL is a huge issue still and Rankins will not change that. We need a run stuffing space eater up front.

But all in all not to bad. Then again this was a loss to the falcons at home which is never acceptable.

Sticking with 10 - 6 till/if we loss 7

spkb25 09-27-2016 10:16 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 721602)
Do you really believe this?

sounds like it could be a second screen name for Guido...may not be, but certainly sounds identical

vpheughan 09-27-2016 10:42 AM

Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?
 
"We may have lost the game but you won't even be hurting today!" At Dougins

jnormand 09-27-2016 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 721635)
sounds like it could be a second screen name for Guido...may not be, but certainly sounds identical

Maybe he's just trying to be positive. There's nothing wrong with that. My hopes for the season are hurting. But I'm trying to have a little. It makes the season a little more enjoyable. For me anyway.

dizzle88 09-27-2016 11:07 AM

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K Major 09-27-2016 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 721632)
Injuries aren't helping. 2 top cb's out and 1 of 2 safeties, plus d lineman, but yes, it still was exceptionally bad last night

Trust me, I get the injuries that has plagued our team thus far but exactly how do they relate to the special teams incompetence which was a big factor and momentum swing last night?

As previous posters have stated .. poor coaching and the lack of depth are playing a big part in the teams failures so far.


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