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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Falcons IR WR Devin Fuller CB Akeem King CB DeMarcus Van Dyke Falcons Out Week 3 LB Paul Worrilow OLB De'Vondre Cambell Other than Worrilow, ever heard of these guys? Saints IR LB 44 - Hau'oli ...

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Old 09-27-2016, 05:16 AM   #1
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Re: Seasons over

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Falcons IR
WR Devin Fuller
CB Akeem King
CB DeMarcus Van Dyke

Falcons Out Week 3
LB Paul Worrilow
OLB De'Vondre Cambell

Other than Worrilow, ever heard of these guys?

Saints IR
LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha
FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford
CB 24 - Kyle Wilson
WR 12 - Kyle Prater
DE 77 - D.J. Pettway
CB 43 - Jimmy Pruitt
DB 27 - Damian Swann
TE 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui
OT 74 - Tyrus Thompson
DT 98 - Sheldon Rankins
CB 25 - P.J. Williams

Saints out Week 3
CB Delvin Breaux
LB Dannell Ellerbe
WR Willie Snead
TE Josh Hill
T Terron Armstead
DT Tyeler Davison
S Kenny Vaccaro

Don't think for a minute that injuries don't matter in this league. Or just saying "next man up" actually means anything. Jarius Byrd was the only active member of the secondary that was even on the team last year.

The Saints did fine on offense. Over 100 yards rushing at 5.0 ypc, Over 350 yards in the air. 7-11 on 3rd down. Won the clock. And they went 4 of 5 in the Redzone. If they had even half those defensive guys listed above, they run the Falcons outta the building.

The Saints lost by 14 points. A pick six and an 11 yard drive following the stupidest muffed punt I've ever seen, were the difference in the game.

Yeah, our 2nd string defense (and that's being generous) couldn't stop the number one offense in the league but their 1st string defense couldn't stop ours either.
New England are dealing with injuries and are 3-0.

We keep finding ways to lose, injuries obviously are a back breaker, but even before we started getting injured we were not a good team.

2 straight 0-4 preseasons, preseason matters, people need to wise up a little on that.

We found ways to lose way before a ton of our starters went down.

In the last 15 home games we are 4-11, what's the reason for that? What's the reason for back to back 7-9 seasons and an 0-3 start, the answer is Payton and his buddies.
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:38 AM   #2
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Re: Seasons over

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New England are dealing with injuries and are 3-0.

We keep finding ways to lose, injuries obviously are a back breaker, but even before we started getting injured we were not a good team.

2 straight 0-4 preseasons, preseason matters, people need to wise up a little on that.

We found ways to lose way before a ton of our starters went down.

In the last 15 home games we are 4-11, what's the reason for that? What's the reason for back to back 7-9 seasons and an 0-3 start, the answer is Payton and his buddies.
So that's it? We're as good as New England or we're a bad team? There's nothing in between?

Patriots IR
T Vollmer, Sebastian
RB Lewis, Dion
G Jackson, Tre

Patriots Out Week 3
QB Jimmy Garoppolo

And of course Tom Brady's out on suspension.

While losing a superstar is hard to make up, losing 10 or more of the 22 projected offensive and defensive starters means you have cover up for half your team and is way more difficult.

The reason we've had back to back losing seasons is obvious, our defense sucked in historic fashion. The defense was undisciplined, often confused and too often out of position. We had absolutely no interior pressure and couldn't stop the run.

We eliminated the biggest problems by getting rid of Rob Ryan and his read and react defense. Guys know where there supposed to be and what their responsibilities are when they get out of the huddle. We've already seen improvements in that department.

The addition of Rankins/Fairly into the defensive line rotation woulda, shoulda, coulda significantly improved the internal pressure on the pocket which would help Jordan and Kikaha, and helped at least a little in run defense. The improvement in the front end would take pressure off the secondary.

Even when completely healthy I don't think this defense would be record setters but I have no doubt it would be better that what we've had the misfortune of seeing for the last two seasons.
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:52 AM   #3
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Re: Seasons over

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So that's it? We're as good as New England or we're a bad team? There's nothing in between?

Patriots IR
T Vollmer, Sebastian
RB Lewis, Dion
G Jackson, Tre

Patriots Out Week 3
QB Jimmy Garoppolo

And of course Tom Brady's out on suspension.

While losing a superstar is hard to make up, losing 10 or more of the 22 projected offensive and defensive starters means you have cover up for half your team and is way more difficult.

The reason we've had back to back losing seasons is obvious, our defense sucked in historic fashion. The defense was undisciplined, often confused and too often out of position. We had absolutely no interior pressure and couldn't stop the run.

We eliminated the biggest problems by getting rid of Rob Ryan and his read and react defense. Guys know where there supposed to be and what their responsibilities are when they get out of the huddle. We've already seen improvements in that department.

The addition of Rankins/Fairly into the defensive line rotation woulda, shoulda, coulda significantly improved the internal pressure on the pocket which would help Jordan and Kikaha, and helped at least a little in run defense. The improvement in the front end would take pressure off the secondary.

Even when completely healthy I don't think this defense would be record setters but I have no doubt it would be better that what we've had the misfortune of seeing for the last two seasons.
We are bad team simple.
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