Five Takeaways From the Game...

Danno · 10-17-2016, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Three...Cam Jordan is underwhelming when you factor his contract number and even uglier is Jordan in space trying to contain his side of the field, much less bring pressure...

...Jordan wasn't going against the best pass protectors and got punked by Cam Jordan on a few plays, Edebali, a backup, outplayed him...

I don't get it JP.
I thought Cam Jordan had a great game.

My main takeaway was that we blew a huge lead, and that typically spells a loss for us. But we bounced back and won it anyway.

That was huge in my book.

jeanpierre · 10-18-2016, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't get it JP.
I thought Cam Jordan had a great game.

My main takeaway was that we blew a huge lead, and that typically spells a loss for us. But we bounced back and won it anyway.

That was huge in my book.

Danno...I'd sure like to sit in with PFF and get schooled up on how the hell they grade...

Sometimes I think they rubberstamp it because they're some players (e.g. Unger, Cooks, Thomas, Robertson) who's play seems better than their PFF grades...

Now, I know Newton is not your average quarterback, but twice Jordan had him in the grasp, in the grasp, but couldn't get him down; if it had been any other QB, it would've been an in-the-grasp call, but Newton being Cam Gigantor Newton, different set of rules...

But G-d*mn, Jordan's still an NFL defensive end, get the MFer on the ground...

Jordan also lost edge containment on at least three different runs plus the Newton touchdown...

For me, when I judge players, gotta believe you apply a factor on what they're being paid...

Example, you and I have both agreed many B&G fans here are overly critical of the RB Travaris Cadet and the expectations don't match what he produces, the many roles he fills and for what he's compensated...

Simply, that works up the ladder as well...

And for the four man rush to produce little to no pressure, especially seeing how we've faced some backups the past few weeks, I just can't help but think Cam Jordan's best days as a 4-3 defensive end...

In fact, thought we saw better pressure from Edebali, who's a backup...

So that's my reasoning, rationale for getting down on him...

But I'd totally agree with you that it was nice for Brees and Lutz to somehow overcome that big momentum shift and eek out the win...

10-17-2016, 12:32 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Five Takeaways From the Game... Originally Posted by jeanpierre Three...Cam Jordan is underwhelming when you factor his contract number and even uglier is Jordan in space trying to contain his side of the field, much less bring pressure... ...Jordan wasn't going against the best pass protectors and got punked by Cam Jordan on a few plays, Edebali, a backup, outplayed him... I don't get it JP. I thought Cam Jordan had a great game. My main takeaway was that we blew a huge lead, and that typically spells a loss for us. But we bounced back and won it anyway. That was huge in my book.

10-18-2016, 12:23 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Five Takeaways From the Game... Originally Posted by Danno I don't get it JP. I thought Cam Jordan had a great game. My main takeaway was that we blew a huge lead, and that typically spells a loss for us. But we bounced back and won it anyway. That was huge in my book. Danno...I'd sure like to sit in with PFF and get schooled up on how the hell they grade... Sometimes I think they rubberstamp it because they're some players (e.g. Unger, Cooks, Thomas, Robertson) who's play seems better than their PFF grades... Now, I know Newton is not your average quarterback, but twice Jordan had him in the grasp, in the grasp, but couldn't get him down; if it had been any other QB, it would've been an in-the-grasp call, but Newton being Cam Gigantor Newton, different set of rules... But G-d*mn, Jordan's still an NFL defensive end, get the MFer on the ground... Jordan also lost edge containment on at least three different runs plus the Newton touchdown... For me, when I judge players, gotta believe you apply a factor on what they're being paid... Example, you and I have both agreed many B&G fans here are overly critical of the RB Travaris Cadet and the expectations don't match what he produces, the many roles he fills and for what he's compensated... Simply, that works up the ladder as well... And for the four man rush to produce little to no pressure, especially seeing how we've faced some backups the past few weeks, I just can't help but think Cam Jordan's best days as a 4-3 defensive end... In fact, thought we saw better pressure from Edebali, who's a backup... So that's my reasoning, rationale for getting down on him... But I'd totally agree with you that it was nice for Brees and Lutz to somehow overcome that big momentum shift and eek out the win...
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