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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I mean the 2nd half I felt like our defense did a great job... we had the clock stopped before the 2 minute warning and we get a dumb penalty that was uncalled for it was no need for it... ...

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Old 10-23-2016, 08:11 PM   #21
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I mean the 2nd half I felt like our defense did a great job... we had the clock stopped before the 2 minute warning and we get a dumb penalty that was uncalled for it was no need for it... when Breaux gets back man that's going to be a huge help
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Old 10-23-2016, 08:15 PM   #22
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I mean the 2nd half I felt like our defense did a great job... we had the clock stopped before the 2 minute warning and we get a dumb penalty that was uncalled for it was no need for it... when Breaux gets back man that's going to be a huge help
The D stepped up in the second half, that's because KC had tired
themselves out running over us in the first half. Hey maybe that's
SP's new strategy tire them out and dilute their Gatorade.
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Old 10-23-2016, 09:03 PM   #23
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They will not have a standout in this unit at anytime this year.

The unit as a whole will never be a force.

But as a functioning unit they are better than the day one against Oakland.

Defense is getting better.
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Old 10-23-2016, 09:55 PM   #24
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Meh ...

2014-2016 has been damn near identical thus far. Different players, same results. It is very apparent the problem lies elsewhere.
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Old 10-24-2016, 05:02 AM   #25
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Re: "Defense" is an embarrassment!

Take away the pick-6, we win 21-20.
Take away the fumble, we probably win 28-17.
Defense played good enough to win.
And they still can't tackle, and they still can't cover.
Can't get off the field on 3rd and 17 yet AGAIN.
That has to hurt somewhere; I'm not getting paid and I can't stand it.
We will be fighting every week to outscore our opponent.
Because of the defense, the offense can't afford giveaways.
As ugly as it was, the defense played good enough for a win.
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Old 10-24-2016, 08:01 AM   #26
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Defense played good enough to win.
And they still can't tackle, and they still can't cover.
Healthy or not, this defense lacks a physical/aggressive defender. We play soft .. there is little aggression. I rarely see guys (Vonn Bell has shown he can) flying to the ball, trying to impose their will on the opponent. How about trying to punch the ball out (sure as hell worked to perfection for KC), or stripping? JByrd simply plays like a guy who doesn't want to get hurt (see the Ware tackle attempt). At least trip the guy ... something. I recall Jon Gruden calling him out weeks ago and I'm paraphrasing here - "he is a total liability out there".

It's time for change ... our D line / linebacker coaches aren't getting it done. This is shaping up to be another sub .500 season.

I thought the O line did a decent job in protecting Brees (only allowed one sack) & Michael Thomas needs to be a front runner for rookie of the year. I see a potential #1 WR in the making.
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We need to add a few really good CB's, a solid NB, a relentless pass rusher, and some push up the middle.

Oh wait, we did. They're all on IR.
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Healthy or not, this defense lacks a physical/aggressive defender. We play soft .. there is little aggression. I rarely see guys (Vonn Bell has shown he can) flying to the ball, trying to impose their will on the opponent. How about trying to punch the ball out (sure as hell worked to perfection for KC), or stripping? JByrd simply plays like a guy who doesn't want to get hurt (see the Ware tackle attempt). At least trip the guy ... something. I recall Jon Gruden calling him out weeks ago and I'm paraphrasing here - "he is a total liability out there".

It's time for change ... our D line / linebacker coaches aren't getting it done. This is shaping up to be another sub .500 season.

I thought the O line did a decent job in protecting Brees (only allowed one sack) & Michael Thomas needs to be a front runner for rookie of the year. I see a potential #1 WR in the making.
No thats EXACTLY what he said "Total Liability"
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Bill & Joe have to go
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really this thread surfaces now? This thread is about 4-5 years in the making.
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