Been very critical of this team, but I think

Ashley · 10-23-2016, 09:42 PM

Just win.

hagan714 · 10-23-2016, 09:53 PM

sticking with 10-6 till we lose game 7

it is a hard season but it has shown were the bench is weakest and the strongest

SLB is a huge void.But the biggest issue is NT. rotation at DT looks pretty good.

CB? they are getting better as a group. wide open to upgrade

Safety? we need a true SS and FS is serviceable at best. These CB/S are just that CB trying to be safeties.

off season NT CB SLB SS/FS till things change

K Major · 10-23-2016, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

sticking with 10-6

blackangold · 10-23-2016, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

SLB is a huge void.But the biggest issue is NT. rotation at DT looks pretty good.

CB? they are getting better as a group. wide open to upgrade

Safety? we need a true SS and FS is serviceable at best. These CB/S are just that CB trying to be safeties.

off season NT CB SLB SS/FS till things change

I find this to be very true. It is far too noticeable when Jenkins is in the game. The guy is awful, anytime Davison is off the field we get ripped on big runs.

We need to get some big vets on the D line in the off season.

CharityMike · 10-24-2016, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I find this to be very true. It is far too noticeable when Jenkins is in the game. The guy is awful, anytime Davison is off the field we get ripped on big runs.

We need to get some big vets on the D line in the off season.

Agree. Jenkins is garbage. Rankins can't get back soon enough. Im also a little disappointed in Fairly this game. Thought with the story about his mothers death and how she would have wanted him to play, would have made him play like a madman. One for moms. But it was not. Bone headed penalty at the worst possible time instead.

IMHO this team lacks motivation. The drive where Ingram scored is a perfect example. Offense kept huddling and Brees acting like he had all day to hike the ball. That all starts with the head coach.

spkb25 · 10-24-2016, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by Saint in Aus

It's funny because for periods of games our D has looked amazing, then, in the periods where they aren't on, they look god awful and get cut up far too easily. This is what it comes down to, our D cannot hold up for long enough. Not really sure the reason for this but I don't think it is personnel.

Yesterday the D was good enough. They let up 20 points and less than 400 total yards. They did that without breaux, williams, and moore. Not horrible

spkb25 · 10-24-2016, 05:30 AM

This team feels like the '08 team to some extent. The fact that our offense is starting to roll. I think we challenge next season, really do.

BTW- Has anyone else noticed that drew has more than 2000 yards through 6 games

darstep · 10-24-2016, 05:38 AM

8-and-8 would be a good year from here.
The little things loomed large yesterday.
A little pick-6 and a little red-zone fumble when we needed it least.
That aside -
We still can't tackle, after all these years.
This didn't start yesterday, we couldn't tackle under Greg Williams.
It's pitiful. It's football. How do you play football and can't tackle?
We still can't cover. I thought I saw Fred Thomas yesterday. Oops!
Stumblin and bumbling getting twisted and turned around like his shoe strings were tied.
How do you mugg a guy like that and still let him catch it for a TD?
Why not just tackle him at the line of scrimmage and take 10 for holding.
You may even get away with it because you're within the 5-yard zone.
ESPN is going to slo-mo that one to death.
And it's not just Crawley. He's the new king because they are picking on him every week.
Who is teaching them to cat fight with receivers while the ball whizzes past their ear hole?
They have to be teaching it because they are ALL doing it.
Prayers go out to Fairley and his family.
I also thought he would be beastly after he decided to play. Nope.
Had more penalties than tackles which was 1 (1 penalty).
If we could go back and play these over we would be 4-2.
Then they would go back and re-play them over and we'd be back to 2-4.
Oh well...

Rell&Gold · 10-24-2016, 09:03 AM

Chiefs have one heck of a home field advantage i'll tell you that much....would like to see more of Tapp & Less of Kruger also why not give the Tulane prospect some snaps on 3rd down there's no way in hell he can be any worse

Rell&Gold · 10-24-2016, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

DS, the defense held (if you want to call it that) the Chiefs defense to 326 total yards on offense (112 rushing, 214 passing)...

It was the sloppy play (mistackles and penalties) that really did the Saints in today...

The Saints gave away this game to the Chiefs today; and that's probably the worst rub of all...

Payton and the defensive coaches need to take a real, hard look at mistackles - it's really the difference these past three years on defense...

Yea JP I agree with you all the wayyy...we aren't fundamentally sound and we are not that athletic on the defensive side for the life of me dont understand why Byrd is still playing adjustments during the game seem to be hard to accomplish I like Nate Stupar he was a nice grab...is it that hard to put a safety over the top of corners who are always getting beat 10-20 yards down the field the misdirection runs were killing us for 1st downs....21 looked good from what I saw from him Crawley's gps is broke when it comes to finding/ tracking the ball..also wouldn't mind letting Tim get the bulk of carries next week Ingram has been very disappointing could be because we haven't be able to run due to us always having to throw to score & being behind but even still something looks off with him..wish we had a Michael Bennett on our team..I can tell you whats wrong with our pass rush they DO NOT KNOW how to use their hands Cam is at times stiff & relies on the swim move to much needs to work half a man & use more of the rip to go THROUGH NOT AROUND the tackles he has the ability just the fundamentals are off BECAUSE HAND TECHNIQUE IS WEAK with our Dline

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Been very critical of this team, but I think sticking with 10-6 till we lose game 7 it is a hard season but it has shown were the bench is weakest and the strongest SLB is a huge void.But the biggest issue is NT. rotation at DT looks pretty good. CB? they are getting better as a group. wide open to upgrade Safety? we need a true SS and FS is serviceable at best. These CB/S are just that CB trying to be safeties. off season NT CB SLB SS/FS till things change blackangold likes this.
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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Been very critical of this team, but I think Originally Posted by hagan714 SLB is a huge void.But the biggest issue is NT. rotation at DT looks pretty good. CB? they are getting better as a group. wide open to upgrade Safety? we need a true SS and FS is serviceable at best. These CB/S are just that CB trying to be safeties. off season NT CB SLB SS/FS till things change I find this to be very true. It is far too noticeable when Jenkins is in the game. The guy is awful, anytime Davison is off the field we get ripped on big runs. We need to get some big vets on the D line in the off season. spkb25 likes this.

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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Been very critical of this team, but I think Originally Posted by blackangold I find this to be very true. It is far too noticeable when Jenkins is in the game. The guy is awful, anytime Davison is off the field we get ripped on big runs. We need to get some big vets on the D line in the off season. Agree. Jenkins is garbage. Rankins can't get back soon enough. Im also a little disappointed in Fairly this game. Thought with the story about his mothers death and how she would have wanted him to play, would have made him play like a madman. One for moms. But it was not. Bone headed penalty at the worst possible time instead. IMHO this team lacks motivation. The drive where Ingram scored is a perfect example. Offense kept huddling and Brees acting like he had all day to hike the ball. That all starts with the head coach. spkb25 likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Been very critical of this team, but I think Originally Posted by Saint in Aus It's funny because for periods of games our D has looked amazing, then, in the periods where they aren't on, they look god awful and get cut up far too easily. This is what it comes down to, our D cannot hold up for long enough. Not really sure the reason for this but I don't think it is personnel. Yesterday the D was good enough. They let up 20 points and less than 400 total yards. They did that without breaux, williams, and moore. Not horrible

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Been very critical of this team, but I think This team feels like the '08 team to some extent. The fact that our offense is starting to roll. I think we challenge next season, really do. BTW- Has anyone else noticed that drew has more than 2000 yards through 6 games Crusader likes this.

10-24-2016, 05:38 AM	#48
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Been very critical of this team, but I think 8-and-8 would be a good year from here. The little things loomed large yesterday. A little pick-6 and a little red-zone fumble when we needed it least. That aside - We still can't tackle, after all these years. This didn't start yesterday, we couldn't tackle under Greg Williams. It's pitiful. It's football. How do you play football and can't tackle? We still can't cover. I thought I saw Fred Thomas yesterday. Oops! Stumblin and bumbling getting twisted and turned around like his shoe strings were tied. How do you mugg a guy like that and still let him catch it for a TD? Why not just tackle him at the line of scrimmage and take 10 for holding. You may even get away with it because you're within the 5-yard zone. ESPN is going to slo-mo that one to death. And it's not just Crawley. He's the new king because they are picking on him every week. Who is teaching them to cat fight with receivers while the ball whizzes past their ear hole? They have to be teaching it because they are ALL doing it. Prayers go out to Fairley and his family. I also thought he would be beastly after he decided to play. Nope. Had more penalties than tackles which was 1 (1 penalty). If we could go back and play these over we would be 4-2. Then they would go back and re-play them over and we'd be back to 2-4. Oh well...
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Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Been very critical of this team, but I think Chiefs have one heck of a home field advantage i'll tell you that much....would like to see more of Tapp & Less of Kruger also why not give the Tulane prospect some snaps on 3rd down there's no way in hell he can be any worse

10-24-2016, 09:32 AM	#50
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Been very critical of this team, but I think Originally Posted by jeanpierre DS, the defense held (if you want to call it that) the Chiefs defense to 326 total yards on offense (112 rushing, 214 passing)... It was the sloppy play (mistackles and penalties) that really did the Saints in today... The Saints *gave* away this game to the Chiefs today; and that's probably the worst rub of all... Payton and the defensive coaches need to take a real, hard look at mistackles - it's really the difference these past three years on defense... Yea JP I agree with you all the wayyy...we aren't fundamentally sound and we are not that athletic on the defensive side for the life of me dont understand why Byrd is still playing adjustments during the game seem to be hard to accomplish I like Nate Stupar he was a nice grab...is it that hard to put a safety over the top of corners who are always getting beat 10-20 yards down the field the misdirection runs were killing us for 1st downs....21 looked good from what I saw from him Crawley's gps is broke when it comes to finding/ tracking the ball..also wouldn't mind letting Tim get the bulk of carries next week Ingram has been very disappointing could be because we haven't be able to run due to us always having to throw to score & being behind but even still something looks off with him..wish we had a Michael Bennett on our team..I can tell you whats wrong with our pass rush they DO NOT KNOW how to use their hands Cam is at times stiff & relies on the swim move to much needs to work half a man & use more of the rip to go THROUGH NOT AROUND the tackles he has the ability just the fundamentals are off BECAUSE HAND TECHNIQUE IS WEAK with our Dline darstep likes this.

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