Trade Mark Ingram!?!

burningmetal · 10-25-2016, 08:47 PM

Fan hate? Really? Nothing else?

I know it has always pained you to hear criticism of your bama players, but this is Saints football we're talking about, and it wouldn't matter to me if he were from LSU. Ingram is not the first player to come under fire for underwhelming play.

If he goes to another team and runs into the back of his linemen, those fans will criticize him just as loudly and probably more.

burningmetal · 10-25-2016, 08:51 PM

We have some pretend GM's who pretend to be GM's (you). This is getting old.

Edit- (Meant as a reply to AsylumGuido)

burningmetal · 10-25-2016, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

You could not be more wrong. He has excellent burst, he doesn't have top end speed.

He still has one of the best ever burst measurables (0-10 yards) in NFL combine history.

You know what a football burst is? It's about finding the hole quickly, making a decisive move and accelerating. It's not about lining up in shorts and running 10 yards past a few cones. Ingram picks and plods his way around and misses holes as much as anyone I have seen. Give him a big enough hole and he'll run through it, sure. Is that a skill? He has good strength to push through piles but is easily tripped, which shows a lack of balance and awareness.

He's not a bell cow. He's best suited in a complimentary role, in my opinion. His supporters (such as yourself) have said for a while now that he needed more carries. Well... He's getting them now. Does he look any different?

spkb25 · 10-25-2016, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

4 million is a large number for a running back in this league of passing. Do you think Ingram is the 16th best back? He's a backup. He's not a top 30 running back, period.

So again, how does he deserve better, when he is paid well over value? I'll give you another crack at it.

yep, 4 million is a lot to drop when you can get the same from an undrafted rookie

spkb25 · 10-25-2016, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

You know what a football burst is? It's about finding the hole quickly, making a decisive move and accelerating. It's not about lining up in shorts and running 10 yards past a few cones. Ingram picks and plods his way around and misses holes as much as anyone I have seen. Give him a big enough hole and he'll run through it, sure. Is that a skill? He has good strength to push through piles but is easily tripped, which shows a lack of balance and awareness.

He's not a bell cow. He's best suited in a complimentary role, in my opinion. His supporters (such as yourself) have said for a while now that he needed more carries. Well... He's getting them now. Does he look any different?

this is so accurate. 100%

spkb25 · 10-25-2016, 09:03 PM

Stealing it from JeanP

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The Dude · 10-25-2016, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

I know the Saints FO Isn't reading this but I think they should trade Mark Ingram now then Draft Fournette next year in the draft to give our future QB a Future RB as well...then after that pick O-line D-line(Pass Rush) DB in no particular order, it looks as though he's going to have another pedestrian season so why not get something for him now whether it be picks, players or both draft your future RB in 2017 and ROCK OUT from there

Fournette will not be a very good player in the NFL.

burningmetal · 10-25-2016, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Fournette will not be a very good player in the NFL.

Still saying that, huh? Ok, wise guy... Give one reason why? Because of the school he attends? Because he doesn't run for 284 yards in every game? He doesn't run over enough players or out run entire defenses often enough?

blackangold · 10-25-2016, 09:55 PM

Ingram lacks vision, which was never a problem in bama...

Well Guido, you keep doing it... I tried to have hope for you, but you'll officially be the first person on my block list. Congrats, because you earned it!

Marlboro Man · 10-26-2016, 12:30 AM

Wow, all this and after I got ragged on for over 7 pages when I SAID He WAS A bust.
Laughable.

10-25-2016, 08:47 PM	#31
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Fan hate? Really? Nothing else? I know it has always pained you to hear criticism of your bama players, but this is Saints football we're talking about, and it wouldn't matter to me if he were from LSU. Ingram is not the first player to come under fire for underwhelming play. If he goes to another team and runs into the back of his linemen, those fans will criticize him just as loudly and probably more. K Major and brees84 like this.

10-25-2016, 08:51 PM	#32
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! We have some pretend GM's who pretend to be GM's (you). This is getting old. Edit- (Meant as a reply to AsylumGuido) Rell&Gold likes this.

10-25-2016, 08:57 PM	#33
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by Danno You could not be more wrong. He has excellent burst, he doesn't have top end speed. He still has one of the best ever burst measurables (0-10 yards) in NFL combine history. You know what a football burst is? It's about finding the hole quickly, making a decisive move and accelerating. It's not about lining up in shorts and running 10 yards past a few cones. Ingram picks and plods his way around and misses holes as much as anyone I have seen. Give him a big enough hole and he'll run through it, sure. Is that a skill? He has good strength to push through piles but is easily tripped, which shows a lack of balance and awareness. He's not a bell cow. He's best suited in a complimentary role, in my opinion. His supporters (such as yourself) have said for a while now that he needed more carries. Well... He's getting them now. Does he look any different? MatthewT, dizzle88 and Rell&Gold like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

10-25-2016, 08:58 PM	#34
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by burningmetal 4 million is a large number for a running back in this league of passing. Do you think Ingram is the 16th best back? He's a backup. He's not a top 30 running back, period. So again, how does he deserve better, when he is paid well over value? I'll give you another crack at it. yep, 4 million is a lot to drop when you can get the same from an undrafted rookie Rell&Gold likes this.

10-25-2016, 08:59 PM	#35
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by burningmetal You know what a football burst is? It's about finding the hole quickly, making a decisive move and accelerating. It's not about lining up in shorts and running 10 yards past a few cones. Ingram picks and plods his way around and misses holes as much as anyone I have seen. Give him a big enough hole and he'll run through it, sure. Is that a skill? He has good strength to push through piles but is easily tripped, which shows a lack of balance and awareness. He's not a bell cow. He's best suited in a complimentary role, in my opinion. His supporters (such as yourself) have said for a while now that he needed more carries. Well... He's getting them now. Does he look any different? this is so accurate. 100% Rell&Gold likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by Rell&Gold I know the Saints FO Isn't reading this but I think they should trade Mark Ingram now then Draft Fournette next year in the draft to give our future QB a Future RB as well...then after that pick O-line D-line(Pass Rush) DB in no particular order, it looks as though he's going to have another pedestrian season so why not get something for him now whether it be picks, players or both draft your future RB in 2017 and ROCK OUT from there Fournette will not be a very good player in the NFL.
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10-25-2016, 09:31 PM	#38
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by The Dude Fournette will not be a very good player in the NFL. Still saying that, huh? Ok, wise guy... Give one reason why? Because of the school he attends? Because he doesn't run for 284 yards in every game? He doesn't run over enough players or out run entire defenses often enough?

10-25-2016, 09:55 PM	#39
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Ingram lacks vision, which was never a problem in bama... Well Guido, you keep doing it... I tried to have hope for you, but you'll officially be the first person on my block list. Congrats, because you earned it! spkb25 and Rell&Gold like this.

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