Trade Mark Ingram!?!

burningmetal · 10-25-2016, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Fournette will not be a very good player in the NFL.

Still saying that, huh? Ok, wise guy... Give one reason why? Because of the school he attends? Because he doesn't run for 284 yards in every game? He doesn't run over enough players or out run entire defenses often enough?

Rell&Gold · 10-26-2016, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Fournette will not be a very good player in the NFL.

Can you give 5 legit reasons why he will not be a good RB in the NFL, me personally I think he's better than Elliot and he's doing fine

blackangold · 10-25-2016, 09:55 PM

Ingram lacks vision, which was never a problem in bama...

Well Guido, you keep doing it... I tried to have hope for you, but you'll officially be the first person on my block list. Congrats, because you earned it!

AsylumGuido · 10-26-2016, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Ingram lacks vision, which was never a problem in bama...

Well Guido, you keep doing it... I tried to have hope for you, but you'll officially be the first person on my block list. Congrats, because you earned it!

Breaks my heart.

Marlboro Man · 10-26-2016, 12:30 AM

Wow, all this and after I got ragged on for over 7 pages when I SAID He WAS A bust.
Laughable.

hagan714 · 10-26-2016, 06:18 AM

draft Leonard Fournette then start the trade talks

K Major · 10-26-2016, 08:37 AM

I used the word "burst" in my game day thread vs the Chiefs as it relates to Ingram vs Hightower. MI simply doesn't "hit" the hole with authority when it's there. No shake and bake or even a spin move (see Eddie Lacey).

IMO we are slow at the RB position. When LB's crash on Mark to make a play, it's over ... he's tackled. Rarely does he break it for a substantial gain. At this level, you need a RB who can do that (AZ RB Johnson will illustrate that when we play them). Honestly, I can't remember a gain or break away over 15 yards this year.

I have 0 hate for Mark but he simply lacks the explosion/burst you need when the lanes are there.

Thirty3 · 10-26-2016, 09:18 AM

I would like to see the game where Ingram gets the ball 32 times.

Euphoria · 10-26-2016, 01:50 PM

I think he is more of the back that we had in 2009 - Ball. The hard 1-2 yard pounder to complement PT and Bush.

Trying to make him anything other than that I think isn't fair. At times I think its the line's fault but then you see Hightower with much larger gains. At this rate I can see us parting ways with him. If we can do it to Jimmy we can certainly do it to Ingram.

K Major · 10-26-2016, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I think he is more of the back that we had in 2009 - Ball. The hard 1-2 yard pounder to complement PT and Bush.

Trying to make him anything other than that I think isn't fair. At times I think its the line's fault but then you see Hightower with much larger gains. At this rate I can see us parting ways with him. If we can do it to Jimmy we can certainly do it to Ingram.

I think you meant Bell and I agree he will grind out the short runs, catching passes and picking up blitzes. Over the course of his career, he has protected the ball well in spite of the blunder vs KC.

Coach Payton isn't going to give it to anyone else until he has 100% confidence that Brees is well protected by the RB he puts in.

On to Seattle

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10-25-2016, 09:31 PM	#1
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by The Dude Fournette will not be a very good player in the NFL. Still saying that, huh? Ok, wise guy... Give one reason why? Because of the school he attends? Because he doesn't run for 284 yards in every game? He doesn't run over enough players or out run entire defenses often enough?

10-26-2016, 10:23 PM	#2
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by The Dude Fournette will not be a very good player in the NFL. Can you give 5 legit reasons why he will not be a good RB in the NFL, me personally I think he's better than Elliot and he's doing fine

10-25-2016, 09:55 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Ingram lacks vision, which was never a problem in bama... Well Guido, you keep doing it... I tried to have hope for you, but you'll officially be the first person on my block list. Congrats, because you earned it! spkb25 and Rell&Gold like this.

10-26-2016, 08:44 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by blackangold Ingram lacks vision, which was never a problem in bama... Well Guido, you keep doing it... I tried to have hope for you, but you'll officially be the first person on my block list. Congrats, because you earned it! Breaks my heart.

10-26-2016, 12:30 AM	#5
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Wow, all this and after I got ragged on for over 7 pages when I SAID He WAS A bust. Laughable.

10-26-2016, 06:18 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! draft Leonard Fournette then start the trade talks MatthewT likes this.

10-26-2016, 08:37 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! I used the word "burst" in my game day thread vs the Chiefs as it relates to Ingram vs Hightower. MI simply doesn't "hit" the hole with authority when it's there. No shake and bake or even a spin move (see Eddie Lacey). IMO we are slow at the RB position. When LB's crash on Mark to make a play, it's over ... he's tackled. Rarely does he break it for a substantial gain. At this level, you need a RB who can do that (AZ RB Johnson will illustrate that when we play them). Honestly, I can't remember a gain or break away over 15 yards this year. I have 0 hate for Mark but he simply lacks the explosion/burst you need when the lanes are there. spkb25, dizzle88, burningmetal and 2 others like this.

10-26-2016, 09:18 AM	#8
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! I would like to see the game where Ingram gets the ball 32 times.
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10-26-2016, 01:50 PM	#9
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! I think he is more of the back that we had in 2009 - Ball. The hard 1-2 yard pounder to complement PT and Bush. Trying to make him anything other than that I think isn't fair. At times I think its the line's fault but then you see Hightower with much larger gains. At this rate I can see us parting ways with him. If we can do it to Jimmy we can certainly do it to Ingram. spkb25 likes this.

10-26-2016, 02:16 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Mark Ingram!?! Originally Posted by Euphoria I think he is more of the back that we had in 2009 - Ball. The hard 1-2 yard pounder to complement PT and Bush. Trying to make him anything other than that I think isn't fair. At times I think its the line's fault but then you see Hightower with much larger gains. At this rate I can see us parting ways with him. If we can do it to Jimmy we can certainly do it to Ingram. I think you meant Bell and I agree he will grind out the short runs, catching passes and picking up blitzes. Over the course of his career, he has protected the ball well in spite of the blunder vs KC. Coach Payton isn't going to give it to anyone else until he has 100% confidence that Brees is well protected by the RB he puts in. On to Seattle ... Rell&Gold likes this.

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