Kenny Vacarro Facing 4-Game Suspension

QBREES9 · 11-10-2016, 10:47 PM

Great .........

Crusader · 11-10-2016, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Why is Adderall banned, anyway? Since when is a drug used to treat hyperactivity considered a performance enhancer? For the record, I am not a fan of that drug, as it seems to turn people into zombies when they're on it. It's hardly anything that should help anyone on the field.

Kenny shouldn't be taking it if it's banned, for the sake of the team, but this is kind of dumb. And as others have already said, who knows what he actually took.

Its banned because it is calming. Has the potential to make you less nervous etc.

nola_swammi · 11-11-2016, 12:34 AM

It also physically enhance your muscles, strength, and endurance with a lot of side effects that can affect your heart and brain if you abuse drugs not to mention it is highly addictive. The drug is used for adhd patients that minds seems to wonder off or simply have a hard time paying attention. If you have kids in sports I highly recommend you keep them away from this drug, the side effects are not worth it.

burningmetal · 11-11-2016, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Its banned because it is calming. Has the potential to make you less nervous etc.

I know what it does, that's why I said it's used to treat hyper activity. But more than making you calm, it just makes people sluggish. I knew some people years ago who had a child who was super hyper (imagine that) and they put her on adderall for some reason. That poor little girl looked like someone put a computer chip in her brain and programmed her to be silent. I haven't seen those people in years, and they might have thought they were helping her, but I hated seeing that.

With that in mind, I don't believe for a second that it helps you perform. He shouldn't take it if it's banned, period. We can't afford to have him suspended. And I don't think anyone should take that drug, simply because it is really not good for anyone. But it's not a steroid, and it's not cocaine. I still don't get why it's on the banned list.

The fact that Kenny (might) have knowingly taken a drug he knew was banned is of course a different subject.

claus808 · 11-11-2016, 02:13 AM

Adderal effects everyone differently. I can pop some and go out drinking all night, basically cracked out... Some take it and just zone out and focus. If Vacarro was prescribed Adderal, I don't see a problem. PRESCRIBED. Even then... I don't see how it would have that big of an effect on his game.

jeanpierre · 11-11-2016, 04:15 AM

If Vaccaro screwed up, fine; but the animosity from the Goodell-led League Office toward the Saints is ridiculous and made evident with this slight...

Too bad Benson's a geriatic infant managed by a gold-digger and a sniveling CPA; we really need leadership from the owner on several fronts - mostly we need a strong owner to take the Commissioner to task...

Team should have been informed before a public announcement...

All teams should be treated the same; but obviously "some (teams) are more equal than others..."

dizzle88 · 11-11-2016, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Why is Adderall banned, anyway? Since when is a drug used to treat hyperactivity considered a performance enhancer? For the record, I am not a fan of that drug, as it seems to turn people into zombies when they're on it. It's hardly anything that should help anyone on the field.

Kenny shouldn't be taking it if it's banned, for the sake of the team, but this is kind of dumb. And as others have already said, who knows what he actually took.

Its been found to lower reaction time so players are more focused and can react quicker, no wonder Kenny had been making plays on the ball more often this year.

xan · 11-11-2016, 08:14 AM

Adderall is an amphetamine based drug. Amphetamines are known performance enhancers. This particular amphetamine has activity that increases brain activity around one block of thoughts - hyperfocusing - which is good for people who have a hard time keeping their focus on tasks at hand. In this way, it acts as a double performance enhancer.

It is a very dangerous drug. Like any amphetamine, it disrupts endocrine balances and causes dopamine and norepinephrine levels in the brain to fluctuate greatly. It also has high potential for addiction.

Unfortunately, performance benefits on focus and memory are not sustainable or permanent. It is a short term solution to behavioral problems and is overused because of misinformation and "underground" non-clinically verified anecdotal "successes".

I agree with everyone who has said above

STUPID.

AsylumGuido · 11-11-2016, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The plot thickens!

Dramatic sound effect - YouTube

NFL reports Vaccaro suspension before Saints even knew about it | ProFootballTalk

Did any of you read this story that WhoDat!656 posted? Vacarro isn't facing any suspension at this point. The NFL violated the confidentiality clauses of the testing policy. There is not supposed to be ANY reporting of violations until after both samples have been tested AND an appeal has been heard AND denied. None of this has happened. We also do not know when this sample was taken. It could have been at any period, even pre-season.

Once again, if you take the time and read the article it mentions that the NFLPA has been waiting for the opportunity to challenge the league office over the policy for some time. It says that this may be the perfect opportunity. That said, even IF Vacarro's second sample also fails it could be months before it ever reaches the point of a suspension.

This is exactly why the confidentiality clause is in place. People are condemning the player when he has not even been convicted.

Pump your brakes, people. Chill out.

AsylumGuido · 11-11-2016, 09:11 AM

Also, consider the initial source of the report ... Ian Rapoport. This clown has swung and missed more than any so-called insider ever.

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11-10-2016, 11:59 PM	#32
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Kenny Vacarro Facing 4-Game Suspension Originally Posted by burningmetal Why is Adderall banned, anyway? Since when is a drug used to treat hyperactivity considered a performance enhancer? For the record, I am not a fan of that drug, as it seems to turn people into zombies when they're on it. It's hardly anything that should help anyone on the field. Kenny shouldn't be taking it if it's banned, for the sake of the team, but this is kind of dumb. And as others have already said, who knows what he actually took. Its banned because it is calming. Has the potential to make you less nervous etc.

11-11-2016, 12:34 AM	#33
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Kenny Vacarro Facing 4-Game Suspension It also physically enhance your muscles, strength, and endurance with a lot of side effects that can affect your heart and brain if you abuse drugs not to mention it is highly addictive. The drug is used for adhd patients that minds seems to wonder off or simply have a hard time paying attention. If you have kids in sports I highly recommend you keep them away from this drug, the side effects are not worth it. xan likes this.

11-11-2016, 01:03 AM	#34
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kenny Vacarro Facing 4-Game Suspension Originally Posted by Crusader Its banned because it is calming. Has the potential to make you less nervous etc. I know what it does, that's why I said it's used to treat hyper activity. But more than making you calm, it just makes people sluggish. I knew some people years ago who had a child who was super hyper (imagine that) and they put her on adderall for some reason. That poor little girl looked like someone put a computer chip in her brain and programmed her to be silent. I haven't seen those people in years, and they might have thought they were helping her, but I hated seeing that. With that in mind, I don't believe for a second that it helps you perform. He shouldn't take it if it's banned, period. We can't afford to have him suspended. And I don't think anyone should take that drug, simply because it is really not good for anyone. But it's not a steroid, and it's not cocaine. I still don't get why it's on the banned list. The fact that Kenny (might) have knowingly taken a drug he knew was banned is of course a different subject.
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11-11-2016, 02:13 AM	#35
claus808 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 213	Re: Kenny Vacarro Facing 4-Game Suspension Adderal effects everyone differently. I can pop some and go out drinking all night, basically cracked out... Some take it and just zone out and focus. If Vacarro was prescribed Adderal, I don't see a problem. PRESCRIBED. Even then... I don't see how it would have that big of an effect on his game.

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11-11-2016, 04:55 AM	#37
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Kenny Vacarro Facing 4-Game Suspension Originally Posted by burningmetal Why is Adderall banned, anyway? Since when is a drug used to treat hyperactivity considered a performance enhancer? For the record, I am not a fan of that drug, as it seems to turn people into zombies when they're on it. It's hardly anything that should help anyone on the field. Kenny shouldn't be taking it if it's banned, for the sake of the team, but this is kind of dumb. And as others have already said, who knows what he actually took. Its been found to lower reaction time so players are more focused and can react quicker, no wonder Kenny had been making plays on the ball more often this year.

11-11-2016, 08:14 AM	#38
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Kenny Vacarro Facing 4-Game Suspension Adderall is an amphetamine based drug. Amphetamines are known performance enhancers. This particular amphetamine has activity that increases brain activity around one block of thoughts - hyperfocusing - which is good for people who have a hard time keeping their focus on tasks at hand. In this way, it acts as a double performance enhancer. It is a very dangerous drug. Like any amphetamine, it disrupts endocrine balances and causes dopamine and norepinephrine levels in the brain to fluctuate greatly. It also has high potential for addiction. Unfortunately, performance benefits on focus and memory are not sustainable or permanent. It is a short term solution to behavioral problems and is overused because of misinformation and "underground" non-clinically verified anecdotal "successes". I agree with everyone who has said above STUPID.
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11-11-2016, 08:46 AM	#39
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Kenny Vacarro Facing 4-Game Suspension Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The plot thickens! Dramatic sound effect - YouTube NFL reports Vaccaro suspension before Saints even knew about it \| ProFootballTalk Did any of you read this story that WhoDat!656 posted? Vacarro isn't facing any suspension at this point. The NFL violated the confidentiality clauses of the testing policy. There is not supposed to be ANY reporting of violations until after both samples have been tested AND an appeal has been heard AND denied. None of this has happened. We also do not know when this sample was taken. It could have been at any period, even pre-season. Once again, if you take the time and read the article it mentions that the NFLPA has been waiting for the opportunity to challenge the league office over the policy for some time. It says that this may be the perfect opportunity. That said, even IF Vacarro's second sample also fails it could be months before it ever reaches the point of a suspension. This is exactly why the confidentiality clause is in place. People are condemning the player when he has not even been convicted. Pump your brakes, people. Chill out. 73Saint likes this.
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11-11-2016, 09:11 AM	#40
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Kenny Vacarro Facing 4-Game Suspension Also, consider the initial source of the report ... Ian Rapoport. This clown has swung and missed more than any so-called insider ever. RailBoss likes this.