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You turn it over like that, bad things typically happen.....ifs and butts were candy nuts it would be xmas everyday. Thought we played okay, thought Breaux could have used some help with Thomas at times, but still at least we were in position to win at the end.....once again. And please, please let's not be grouped into the Seahawk cry baby fan base, "refs cost us", I hear it every damn day. We take of the ball, we win. Simple

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Where was Fleener today?

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The NFL will change the kicking rules to stop this jumping over the center stuff as soon as the season is done. Betcha...


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Definitely not blaming the refs for this loss. We had our chances and blew it. But...

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Cant blame the refs for the loss, but can DEFINITELY say they missed a calls on that play HOW they missed them is the question He clearly stepped out and that clearly was suppose to be some type of call with leap over....All those turnover happen nothing you can do once they happened we fought back afterwards to lose like that is BS

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Correct. We laid this turd.
We win easy just taking care of the ball.

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the white shoe bit is an old issue

the mugging of the center is a new one on me.

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What I cannot stand about the NFL refs in any game is if there is any case where the ball is within a half-yard of the first down markers the refs just move the ball forward and call it a first down. It's complete BS. Every inch is supposed to matter in football, back in the day they brought out the chains and got the call right. Generous first down spots, PI calls, starting at the 25 - NFL needs to have its shootouts and little Jimmy needs his fantasy stats.

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He was out of bounds but Thomas's 2 fourth quarter fumbles and Kenny's late hit where huge. I'm still optimistic. We have to win Thursday. Our defense looked so much better yesterday. We are close my peeps. A few more additions on D in the off season and we are back in the hunt. I felt terrible for Thomas. He has been so good this year

Re: Let's not start blaming the refs
 

Precisely.

The question is, will handling Michael Thomas the same way we did with Ingram when he fumbled harm his confidence or will it be neccessary to his growth?