Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal

WhoDat!656 · 11-13-2016, 08:39 PM

First, it appears that defensive ends Jared Crick and Adam Gotsis held down the Saints’ long snapper, allowing Simmons to jump over the line. Making contact like that with the snapper before he lifts his head is illegal.

Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal | Broncos Wire

hagan714 · 11-13-2016, 09:16 PM

that is true

Ashley · 11-13-2016, 09:52 PM

Well its to late now to complain about it.

WhoDat!656 · 11-13-2016, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

Well its to late now to complain about it.

Never too late to complain; just too late to do anything about it!

This is why coaches should be allowed to challenge any plays!

K Major · 11-13-2016, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Never too late to complain; just too late to do anything about it!

This is why coaches should be allowed to challenge any plays!

Challenge any play? The game would be 5 hours long. It is what it is.

On to Carolina.

WhoDat!656 · 11-14-2016, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Challenge any play? The game would be 5 hours long. It is what it is.

On to Carolina.

Did I say coaches give coaches unlimited challenges?

Leave the # of challenges where they are, but a coach could challenge a holding, or PI; call look at all the times we complain about Jordan being held. If the refs missed a holding call on Jordan, for example, and the result of the play is a critical 1st down or a touchdown, wouldn't you want SP to have the ability to challenge that?

Rugby Saint II · 11-15-2016, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Did I say coaches give coaches unlimited challenges?

Leave the # of challenges where they are, but a coach could challenge a holding, or PI; call look at all the times we complain about Jordan being held. If the refs missed a holding call on Jordan, for example, and the result of the play is a critical 1st down or a touchdown, wouldn't you want SP to have the ability to challenge that?

There is holding on every play. We can't stop the game for a non call. But for a bad call that could change the game....hell yeah.

Saintsfan4ever · 11-13-2016, 10:06 PM

This was no doubt a "rehearsed" special team's move by the Broncos. They knew it was illegal, but exactly what did they have to lose? If they got flagged for the violation the Saints would line up and kick it again. Moving the ball 10 yds closer wouldn't improve the percentages a great deal, but if they got away with the violation it could alter the outcome of the game. And they did, and it did, and it's done.
Payton & our Special Teams coach should've recognized this immediately and called a referee huddle instead of concentrating on a sideline issue that couldn't be proven. I think it was Bill Cowher, I'm not sure, but one of the after game analyst said there is film of the Broncos doing this same exact move in previous games. Why was our field goal unit not ready for this?

ChrisXVI · 11-13-2016, 10:09 PM

hagan714 · 11-14-2016, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

https://twitter.com/jeffduncan_/stat...11616977682432

i thought the center is now under extra protection in the new rules?
interesting. do not run over the canter grab him and throw them to ground is not holding if any kind?
sounds like a cop out or a glaring over site

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal First, it appears that defensive ends Jared Crick and Adam Gotsis held down the Saints’ long snapper, allowing Simmons to jump over the line. Making contact like that with the snapper before he lifts his head is illegal. Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal \| Broncos Wire

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal that is true

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Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal Well its to late now to complain about it. hagan714 and K Major like this.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal Originally Posted by Ashley Well its to late now to complain about it. Never too late to complain; just too late to do anything about it! This is why coaches should be allowed to challenge any plays! Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,769 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Never too late to complain; just too late to do anything about it! This is why coaches should be allowed to challenge any plays! Challenge any play? The game would be 5 hours long. It is what it is. On to Carolina.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal Originally Posted by K Major Challenge any play? The game would be 5 hours long. It is what it is. On to Carolina. Did I say coaches give coaches unlimited challenges? Leave the # of challenges where they are, but a coach could challenge a holding, or PI; call look at all the times we complain about Jordan being held. If the refs missed a holding call on Jordan, for example, and the result of the play is a critical 1st down or a touchdown, wouldn't you want SP to have the ability to challenge that? Rell&Gold likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,125	Re: Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Did I say coaches give coaches unlimited challenges? Leave the # of challenges where they are, but a coach could challenge a holding, or PI; call look at all the times we complain about Jordan being held. If the refs missed a holding call on Jordan, for example, and the result of the play is a critical 1st down or a touchdown, wouldn't you want SP to have the ability to challenge that? There is holding on every play. We can't stop the game for a non call. But for a bad call that could change the game....hell yeah. K Major likes this.

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Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal This was no doubt a "rehearsed" special team's move by the Broncos. They knew it was illegal, but exactly what did they have to lose? If they got flagged for the violation the Saints would line up and kick it again. Moving the ball 10 yds closer wouldn't improve the percentages a great deal, but if they got away with the violation it could alter the outcome of the game. And they did, and it did, and it's done. Payton & our Special Teams coach should've recognized this immediately and called a referee huddle instead of concentrating on a sideline issue that couldn't be proven. I think it was Bill Cowher, I'm not sure, but one of the after game analyst said there is film of the Broncos doing this same exact move in previous games. Why was our field goal unit not ready for this? Ashley, 73Saint and SaintsBro like this.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Broncos game-winning block against Saints may have been illegal Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/jeffduncan_/stat...11616977682432 i thought the center is now under extra protection in the new rules? interesting. do not run over the canter grab him and throw them to ground is not holding if any kind? sounds like a cop out or a glaring over site

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