dizzle88

If Michael Thomas could hold onto the ball, we wouldn't be talking about this play.

hagan714

i thought the center is now under extra protection in the new rules?
interesting. do not run over the canter grab him and throw them to ground is not holding if any kind?
sounds like a cop out or a glaring over site

jeanpierre

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

Rell&Gold

Exactly & neither one of hem had any INTENT to try and block the kick they knew what their job was from the get go hold the center at the snap....Even one of the Broncos players on the sideline said the no call on the step out was BS.....I feel like if the roles were reversed we are getting called for everything on that play

SaintsBro

Here is the thing that I always say about stuff like this. These calls are subjective, the referees are humans and they have to make split-second decisions; but their IMPRESSIONS of the game and the two teams involved, are very important. Bottom line: if the refs RESPECT you, if they think you are a good player or team and they think you're playing good ball, they will GIVE YOU all the calls you will ever need. If they don't respect you and your team, it's gonna be a long day for you.

How many times have we seen the type of thing, even for the Saints -- when a team has the momentum the refs will spot the ball favorably, they will not call holding, they keep the flags in their pockets or throw them on the other team to extend drives. How many times have you seen Drew or Peyton Manning or another marquee player argue for something with the ref, and get it (the most famous one was a game where I saw the refs put more time back on the 45-second clock and saved the Colts a time out, because Peyton asked them for it).

If you're playing good football, with good fundamentals and good sportsmanship, the refs WILL call these things your way. If you're playing badly, losing the game, and barely hanging on , then when something goes wrong you appeal to the refs and they don't want anything to do with it -- 'talk to the hand.' This is why when receivers are divas and complain and look around for the flag, they almost never get it. The refs aren't robots -- their impressions of who is the better team on the field, is important.

Bottom line what happened yesterday was very simple -- the calls did not go our way because the reality is that the refs do not RESPECT the Saints, especially our special teams unit, which is sloppy and is already widely known in the league for being sub-par and taking plays off. That's the Saints' coaches' problem, not the refs.

K Major

I can agree with that. Not sure if you saw any of the NE/Seattle game last night but I thought Kam Chancellor got away with a few muggings (4th and goal vs Gronk) however he is such an impactful player, he got the benefit of a non call.

Not so sure our guys would have gotten away with that .

Beastmode

It looked legal to me. Situational awareness. Have to be ready for something like that with the game on the line IMO. They saw a weakness and exploited it.

The real travesty is two critical fumbles by the same player rookie or not. Then we had an opportunity for a field goal earlier and we go with the tough throw instead. But not the biggest bonehead move of the weekend for sure. Pats throwing from the one on 4th when Blount already ran 3 in from the one. They obviously could not stop it so why stop doing it.

jeanpierre

There was nothing legal about the play...

Two Denver defenders pushed and held down on a defenseless player while a linebacker jumped over the long snapper...

Subjective? The umpire and referee shouldn't be calling games for the rest of the season for missing the obvious...

The fact that its happened twice and cost two losses also means the Special Teams Coach is a *** **** moron and should be fired for not bringing the issue up with the referees...

dizzle88

If the two denver players pushed down on Dreschers back, surely isn't that a block in the back or holding on the defense?

dizzle88

Read this you guys, these are the altered rulea for the 2016 season

Goal/Extra Point Rush Tactics

Game officials will monitor and strictly enforce the rules pertaining to illegal acts committed by the defensive team while trying to block field-goal and extra-point attempts during the 2016 season, including:

Making forcible contact below the waist of offensive blockers.
Grabbing an offensive blocker and pulling him to the side or toward the ground to create space or a gap for a teammate to rush through.
Using the hands or other parts of the body to push off an offensive blocker to gain leverage in an effort to block the kick.

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