Drew Brees

SmashMouth · 12-04-2016, 11:43 PM

He's the greatest QB!

I don't understand how this caliber of a QB makes some of the decisions he made today. I mean, 3 INTs. I know great QBs have bone headed games from time to time. We do need more beef on the OL. But that was not the problem on his turnovers today. It just seems he's having more of those kinds of games of late. At what point do the fans call him on it? How much does the rest of the team shoulder part of this?

voodooido · 12-05-2016, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

He's the greatest QB!

I don't understand how this caliber of a QB makes some of the decisions he made today. I mean, 3 INTs. I know great QBs have bone headed games from time to time. We do need more beef on the OL. But that was not the problem on his turnovers today. It just seems he's having more of those kinds of games of late. At what point do the fans call him on it? How much does the rest of the team shoulder part of this?

Hard to hold his feet to the fire when he has led our team to places we may never see again. He makes mistakes but it by far the best player on the team. Pressure today was insane. He could not get comfortable

dizzle88 · 12-05-2016, 12:57 AM

He is certainly not playing well recently, 6 interceptions in the past 4 games.

That may have something to do with Payton though.

Big announcement - Payton will now call plays.......we ran the ball 12 times and passed 44 times.....

WillSaints81 · 12-05-2016, 01:30 AM

The problem I have with this game is Fleener. I don't respect this and don't want accept him any longer. I just want him gone.

Also, Ingram. Ingram didn't do well today and justified a top RB would have given Brees more relief.

We don't have a big RB to help in these games, we choose to throw to Fleener when Thomas is open. I just can't.

dizzle88 · 12-05-2016, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

The problem I have with this game is Fleener. I don't respect this and don't want accept him any longer. I just want him gone.

Also, Ingram. Ingram didn't do well today and justified a top RB would have given Brees more relief.

We don't have a big RB to help in these games, we choose to throw to Fleener when Thomas is open. I just can't.

Seriously check your stats. How could Ingram help Brees when he carried the ball 7 times?

He gained 37 yards from 7 carries, once again with a 5.3 ypc which leads the league.

Ingram has zero blame in this game, Payton was the one who chose to only run the ball 12 times total.

Utah_Saint · 12-05-2016, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Seriously check your stats. How could Ingram help Brees when he carried the ball 7 times?

He gained 37 yards from 7 carries, once again with a 5.3 ypc which leads the league.

Ingram has zero blame in this game, Payton was the one who chose to only run the ball 12 times total.

I don't know. I was ticked at Ingram from the second play of the game.

2nd and 7. Drew dumped off to him in the flat. Ingram catches it, runs six and a half yards and stepped outta bounds to avoid taking the hit, from a frickin DB, short of the first down. Total wuss move. He shoulda put a shoulder down, hammered Glover and picked up that extra yard for a first down. I don't blame the whole game on him but that play did seem to typify the offensive fire for the rest of the game.

And yes he did have 5.3 yards per carry but 22 of those yards came on one play. The other six carries, he only managed 15 yards. He also caught 5 passes for only 16 yards.

The whole offensive unit didn't seem to have any fight in them till the 4th quarter. Linemen getting pushed around like they were on roller skates, receivers that weren't getting separation, running backs going down on the first contact... And the Lions aren't some defensive juggernaut. For the season, they're a below average defense any way you measure it. Giving up a 4.2 yards per carry and allowing over a 100 passer rating. The offense certainly didn't seem motivated.

Crusader · 12-05-2016, 02:53 AM

Yes we should have ran the ball more. We were never far enough behind to totally abandon the run game like we did. It also felt like Brees were trying to force balls to Cook this game so I hope he is happy now.

claus808 · 12-05-2016, 04:31 AM

Trade Cooks for a defensive player. He's great of course, but isn't the "stud" I think New Orleans expected him to be.

AsylumGuido · 12-05-2016, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by claus808

Trade Cooks for a defensive player. He's great of course, but isn't the "stud" I think New Orleans expected him to be.

It's not that easy. People always throw out trades. This isn't baseball. Player for player trades are very rare. There are multiple years of salary caps involved. They just aren't done.

The Dude · 12-06-2016, 12:03 AM

Brees isn't the problem. He had a bad game for sure but without him we would be looking at our 3rd 1-2 win seasons in a row. He can still perform at an elite level. Tell me another option that's available that would be better. If we keep him protected and get some real playmakers at TE and receiver it will extend his career. For this reason getting rid of Cooks is dumb. We have money this offseason and can afford a couple good pieces.

12-04-2016, 11:43 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,546 Blog Entries: 29	Drew Brees He's the greatest QB! I don't understand how this caliber of a QB makes some of the decisions he made today. I mean, 3 INTs. I know great QBs have bone headed games from time to time. We do need more beef on the OL. But that was not the problem on his turnovers today. It just seems he's having more of those kinds of games of late. At what point do the fans call him on it? How much does the rest of the team shoulder part of this?

12-05-2016, 12:08 AM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,831	Re: Drew Brees Originally Posted by SmashMouth He's the greatest QB! I don't understand how this caliber of a QB makes some of the decisions he made today. I mean, 3 INTs. I know great QBs have bone headed games from time to time. We do need more beef on the OL. But that was not the problem on his turnovers today. It just seems he's having more of those kinds of games of late. At what point do the fans call him on it? How much does the rest of the team shoulder part of this? Hard to hold his feet to the fire when he has led our team to places we may never see again. He makes mistakes but it by far the best player on the team. Pressure today was insane. He could not get comfortable jnormand, SaintFanQ, Papa Voodoo and 1 others like this.
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12-05-2016, 12:57 AM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Drew Brees He is certainly not playing well recently, 6 interceptions in the past 4 games. That may have something to do with Payton though. Big announcement - Payton will now call plays.......we ran the ball 12 times and passed 44 times.....

12-05-2016, 01:30 AM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,276	Re: Drew Brees The problem I have with this game is Fleener. I don't respect this and don't want accept him any longer. I just want him gone. Also, Ingram. Ingram didn't do well today and justified a top RB would have given Brees more relief. We don't have a big RB to help in these games, we choose to throw to Fleener when Thomas is open. I just can't. Beastmode likes this.

12-05-2016, 02:18 AM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Drew Brees Originally Posted by WillSaints81 The problem I have with this game is Fleener. I don't respect this and don't want accept him any longer. I just want him gone. Also, Ingram. Ingram didn't do well today and justified a top RB would have given Brees more relief. We don't have a big RB to help in these games, we choose to throw to Fleener when Thomas is open. I just can't. Seriously check your stats. How could Ingram help Brees when he carried the ball 7 times? He gained 37 yards from 7 carries, once again with a 5.3 ypc which leads the league. Ingram has zero blame in this game, Payton was the one who chose to only run the ball 12 times total. jnormand, Danno, claus808 and 1 others like this.

12-05-2016, 02:19 PM	#6
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Drew Brees Originally Posted by dizzle88 Seriously check your stats. How could Ingram help Brees when he carried the ball 7 times? He gained 37 yards from 7 carries, once again with a 5.3 ypc which leads the league. Ingram has zero blame in this game, Payton was the one who chose to only run the ball 12 times total. I don't know. I was ticked at Ingram from the second play of the game. 2nd and 7. Drew dumped off to him in the flat. Ingram catches it, runs six and a half yards and stepped outta bounds to avoid taking the hit, from a frickin DB, short of the first down. Total wuss move. He shoulda put a shoulder down, hammered Glover and picked up that extra yard for a first down. I don't blame the whole game on him but that play did seem to typify the offensive fire for the rest of the game. And yes he did have 5.3 yards per carry but 22 of those yards came on one play. The other six carries, he only managed 15 yards. He also caught 5 passes for only 16 yards. The whole offensive unit didn't seem to have any fight in them till the 4th quarter. Linemen getting pushed around like they were on roller skates, receivers that weren't getting separation, running backs going down on the first contact... And the Lions aren't some defensive juggernaut. For the season, they're a below average defense any way you measure it. Giving up a 4.2 yards per carry and allowing over a 100 passer rating. The offense certainly didn't seem motivated.

12-05-2016, 02:53 AM	#7
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,033	Re: Drew Brees Yes we should have ran the ball more. We were never far enough behind to totally abandon the run game like we did. It also felt like Brees were trying to force balls to Cook this game so I hope he is happy now. jnormand, Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and 1 others like this.

12-05-2016, 04:31 AM	#8
claus808 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 213	Re: Drew Brees Trade Cooks for a defensive player. He's great of course, but isn't the "stud" I think New Orleans expected him to be. dizzle88 likes this.

12-05-2016, 05:08 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,565	Re: Drew Brees Originally Posted by claus808 Trade Cooks for a defensive player. He's great of course, but isn't the "stud" I think New Orleans expected him to be. It's not that easy. People always throw out trades. This isn't baseball. Player for player trades are very rare. There are multiple years of salary caps involved. They just aren't done. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

12-06-2016, 12:03 AM	#10
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Drew Brees Brees isn't the problem. He had a bad game for sure but without him we would be looking at our 3rd 1-2 win seasons in a row. He can still perform at an elite level. Tell me another option that's available that would be better. If we keep him protected and get some real playmakers at TE and receiver it will extend his career. For this reason getting rid of Cooks is dumb. We have money this offseason and can afford a couple good pieces. jnormand and darksoul35 like this.
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