Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss

12-12-2016, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

I disagree with you on Brees. He was definitely off today and he wasn't sharp the past two weeks, but otherwise he looks exactly the same. The forced INT's - we've seen this before.

Cooks, on the other hand, is "complaining" yet he misjudged a pass slowing down before hauling butt to the end zone and missing a sure TD by a step.

I saw a lot of drops, something all too familiar with this team. Some are rather sad and lead to INT's.

I think the missing link is since WR coach Curtis Johnson left the Saints in 2012 to become head coach at Tulane, the offense has never been the same. WR's have been bumbling and dropping balls since 2012. Before that, our team had some of the surest hands in the NFL.

No offense to current WR coach John Morton, but there's been a LOT of drops and unnecessary drama at that position, and the skill set has faded since Curtis Johnson left.

I also blame Sean Payton. It's just not the same since Bountygate.

Peace out.

Brees and Cooks aren't getting the reps during the week that used to happen in the past with Colston, Graham, Moore, etc. The timing of the, what should have been a TD, pass was off with Cooks. The chemistry with this team is just not where it needs to be.

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Ashley · 12-12-2016, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

The interior of the offensive line was horrible yesterday for three and a half quarters. The run game was horrible because of it so Payton does what he always does and abandoned it for the short passing game. I know for a fact that two of the ints were thrown against the same coverage, nickel robber, where the FS comes down. They knew we were going to throw deep so they took their chances.

No Max Unger. I didnt see the game I just know he was hurt. We just dont have a good line, or definitely do not have depth

Halo · 12-12-2016, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Ashley

No Max Unger. I didnt see the game I just know he was hurt. We just dont have a good line, or definitely do not have depth

Unger out definitely showed.

neugey · 12-12-2016, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

U hit the nail on the head. all these 3rd and ones and we come out in the shotgun. I would rather make it a 4th down situation and run straight up the middle twice. Three times in a row on 3rd and 1 we come out in the gun. I absolutely don't want Payten gone but he was trippin on this one.

That's horrible. Payton needs to find a college job and recruit a speedy QB if that is how he wants to roll. Going gun empty on 3rd and 1 with a statue QB is borderline brain-dead.

AllSaints · 12-12-2016, 01:42 PM

I'm actually excited about our defense.... we need another stud CB and pass rusher we have a really good defense.... the offense ... I'm tired of it... I'm tired of watching them struggle and I know the defense can read what play we are running when I'm sitting in the recliner at home and can clearly see oh hear comes the screen .... Payton needs to be the head coach not the play caller... he doesn't have IT.... anymore ....

dizzle88 · 12-12-2016, 01:44 PM

That awkward moment when Paul Kruger has scored more points in the last 2 weeks than Brees has.

Budsdrinker · 12-12-2016, 05:03 PM

Offensive line was terrible. Bucs have a good D-line to begin with but not having Unger made them look even better. Most plays they were in the backfield before the handoff so I don't blame Payton for wanting to throw on 3-1, I just wish we would use quick slants in those situations, you only need a yard not 10.

WillSaints81 · 12-12-2016, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I disagree with you on Brees. He was definitely off today and he wasn't sharp the past two weeks, but otherwise he looks exactly the same. The forced INT's - we've seen this before.

Cooks, on the other hand, is "complaining" yet he misjudged a pass slowing down before hauling butt to the end zone and missing a sure TD by a step.

I saw a lot of drops, something all too familiar with this team. Some are rather sad and lead to INT's.

I think the missing link is since WR coach Curtis Johnson left the Saints in 2012 to become head coach at Tulane, the offense has never been the same. WR's have been bumbling and dropping balls since 2012. Before that, our team had some of the surest hands in the NFL.

No offense to current WR coach John Morton, but there's been a LOT of drops and unnecessary drama at that position, and the skill set has faded since Curtis Johnson left.

I also blame Sean Payton. It's just not the same since Bountygate.

Peace out.

What are we gonna do? Wrestle him from the bears?

Rugby Saint II · 12-13-2016, 01:56 PM

Where's the fire? We need to play the Rams every week.

WhoDat!656 · 12-13-2016, 04:12 PM

Should have titled this post Saints Offense Crumbles Against The Bucs!

For all the mistakes the defense made, when you look at the numbers they held up their end of the deal:

Once again did not allow a second half TD

Held Bucs to 3.0 yds rushing and under 200 yds passing

Kept Winston without a TD, (run or pass), for the first time ever, college or pro.

12-12-2016, 10:30 AM	#31
Threaded by SaintsSB Rookie Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 10 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Halo I disagree with you on Brees. He was definitely off today and he wasn't sharp the past two weeks, but otherwise he looks exactly the same. The forced INT's - we've seen this before. Cooks, on the other hand, is "complaining" yet he misjudged a pass slowing down before hauling butt to the end zone and missing a sure TD by a step. I saw a lot of drops, something all too familiar with this team. Some are rather sad and lead to INT's. I think the missing link is since WR coach Curtis Johnson left the Saints in 2012 to become head coach at Tulane, the offense has never been the same. WR's have been bumbling and dropping balls since 2012. Before that, our team had some of the surest hands in the NFL. No offense to current WR coach John Morton, but there's been a LOT of drops and unnecessary drama at that position, and the skill set has faded since Curtis Johnson left. I also blame Sean Payton. It's just not the same since Bountygate. Peace out. Brees and Cooks aren't getting the reps during the week that used to happen in the past with Colston, Graham, Moore, etc. The timing of the, what should have been a TD, pass was off with Cooks. The chemistry with this team is just not where it needs to be. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Halo and Beastmode like this.
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12-12-2016, 10:36 AM	#32
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss Originally Posted by Rsanders24 The interior of the offensive line was horrible yesterday for three and a half quarters. The run game was horrible because of it so Payton does what he always does and abandoned it for the short passing game. I know for a fact that two of the ints were thrown against the same coverage, nickel robber, where the FS comes down. They knew we were going to throw deep so they took their chances. No Max Unger. I didnt see the game I just know he was hurt. We just dont have a good line, or definitely do not have depth Halo likes this.

12-12-2016, 11:37 AM	#33
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,602 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss Originally Posted by Ashley No Max Unger. I didnt see the game I just know he was hurt. We just dont have a good line, or definitely do not have depth Unger out definitely showed. MatthewT and Beastmode like this.

12-12-2016, 12:31 PM	#34
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss Originally Posted by darksoul35 U hit the nail on the head. all these 3rd and ones and we come out in the shotgun. I would rather make it a 4th down situation and run straight up the middle twice. Three times in a row on 3rd and 1 we come out in the gun. I absolutely don't want Payten gone but he was trippin on this one. That's horrible. Payton needs to find a college job and recruit a speedy QB if that is how he wants to roll. Going gun empty on 3rd and 1 with a statue QB is borderline brain-dead.

12-12-2016, 01:42 PM	#35
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss I'm actually excited about our defense.... we need another stud CB and pass rusher we have a really good defense.... the offense ... I'm tired of it... I'm tired of watching them struggle and I know the defense can read what play we are running when I'm sitting in the recliner at home and can clearly see oh hear comes the screen .... Payton needs to be the head coach not the play caller... he doesn't have IT.... anymore ....

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12-12-2016, 01:44 PM	#36
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss That awkward moment when Paul Kruger has scored more points in the last 2 weeks than Brees has. Ashley likes this.

12-12-2016, 05:03 PM	#37
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss Offensive line was terrible. Bucs have a good D-line to begin with but not having Unger made them look even better. Most plays they were in the backfield before the handoff so I don't blame Payton for wanting to throw on 3-1, I just wish we would use quick slants in those situations, you only need a yard not 10.

12-12-2016, 07:27 PM	#38
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss Originally Posted by Halo I disagree with you on Brees. He was definitely off today and he wasn't sharp the past two weeks, but otherwise he looks exactly the same. The forced INT's - we've seen this before. Cooks, on the other hand, is "complaining" yet he misjudged a pass slowing down before hauling butt to the end zone and missing a sure TD by a step. I saw a lot of drops, something all too familiar with this team. Some are rather sad and lead to INT's. I think the missing link is since WR coach Curtis Johnson left the Saints in 2012 to become head coach at Tulane, the offense has never been the same. WR's have been bumbling and dropping balls since 2012. Before that, our team had some of the surest hands in the NFL. No offense to current WR coach John Morton, but there's been a LOT of drops and unnecessary drama at that position, and the skill set has faded since Curtis Johnson left. I also blame Sean Payton. It's just not the same since Bountygate. Peace out. What are we gonna do? Wrestle him from the bears?

12-13-2016, 01:56 PM	#39
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss Where's the fire? We need to play the Rams every week.

12-13-2016, 04:12 PM	#40
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Re: Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss Should have titled this post Saints Offense Crumbles Against The Bucs! For all the mistakes the defense made, when you look at the numbers they held up their end of the deal: Once again did not allow a second half TD Held Bucs to 3.0 yds rushing and under 200 yds passing Kept Winston without a TD, (run or pass), for the first time ever, college or pro. Danno likes this.

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