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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Ashley No Max Unger. I didnt see the game I just know he was hurt. We just dont have a good line, or definitely do not have depth Unger out definitely showed....

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Old 12-12-2016, 10:37 AM   #1
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Re: Saints crumble against Bucs - Another disappointing loss

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No Max Unger. I didnt see the game I just know he was hurt. We just dont have a good line, or definitely do not have depth
Unger out definitely showed.
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Old 12-12-2016, 07:06 AM   #2
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-Refs were clearly one-sided again.
-Poor clock management. Wasted timeouts.
-3rd and 1. Empty back set. Horrible.
-Front four is competing. Fairley is a must re-sign.
-Robertson was missed.
-Bucs knew what the Saints were running and where the passes were going most of the day.
-Lutz is a franchise kicker.
-Ingram will tease and have his moments, but that's all.
-Coleman is vastly improved.
-Snead has taken a step back.
-For Cooks to be the man he thinks he is, he's got to dive for the long ball and not get alligator arms over the middle.
-Love Breaux. Appears to just be injury prone.
-Bell is a keeper.
-Payton needs to give up the play calling.
-TommyLee needs some snaps.
-Fleener is not a franchise TE. Another LARGE miss by the GM.
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:02 AM   #3
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-Refs were clearly one-sided again.
-Poor clock management. Wasted timeouts.
-3rd and 1. Empty back set. Horrible.
-Front four is competing. Fairley is a must re-sign.
-Robertson was missed.
-Bucs knew what the Saints were running and where the passes were going most of the day.
-Lutz is a franchise kicker.
-Ingram will tease and have his moments, but that's all.
-Coleman is vastly improved.
-Snead has taken a step back.
-For Cooks to be the man he thinks he is, he's got to dive for the long ball and not get alligator arms over the middle.
-Love Breaux. Appears to just be injury prone.
-Bell is a keeper.
-Payton needs to give up the play calling.
-TommyLee needs some snaps.
-Fleener is not a franchise TE. Another LARGE miss by the GM.
U hit the nail on the head. all these 3rd and ones and we come out in the shotgun. I would rather make it a 4th down situation and run straight up the middle twice. Three times in a row on 3rd and 1 we come out in the gun. I absolutely don't want Payten gone but he was trippin on this one.
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Old 12-12-2016, 11:31 AM   #4
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U hit the nail on the head. all these 3rd and ones and we come out in the shotgun. I would rather make it a 4th down situation and run straight up the middle twice. Three times in a row on 3rd and 1 we come out in the gun. I absolutely don't want Payten gone but he was trippin on this one.
That's horrible. Payton needs to find a college job and recruit a speedy QB if that is how he wants to roll. Going gun empty on 3rd and 1 with a statue QB is borderline brain-dead.
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Old 12-12-2016, 07:57 AM   #5
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- When you're down, vulnerable, you can't let the officials be a factor - smaller market teams lose everytime unless you're one of the league's pets like the Packers, Steelers, or Ravens...

- Payton's got some insecurity issues that he needs to address; asskissing poster of Benson hung at Saints HQ; taking over playcalling and falling apart in games; dating MS West Virginia, nearly half his age...

- Craig Robertson, Nick Fairley, and Sterling Moore have earned contracts with Moore's a little tricky...

- Cooks will be fine, he's just pressing as is Brees, Payton...

- Vonn Bell is already as good as what he got out of Byrd this season...

- Tommylee is a fine player, but Murphy would be more versatile and the coaches needs to get him right...

- Fleener is the same deal with Byrd; former team's fans are laughing, relieved they were no longer their headaches...
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:42 PM   #6
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I'm actually excited about our defense.... we need another stud CB and pass rusher we have a really good defense.... the offense ... I'm tired of it... I'm tired of watching them struggle and I know the defense can read what play we are running when I'm sitting in the recliner at home and can clearly see oh hear comes the screen .... Payton needs to be the head coach not the play caller... he doesn't have IT.... anymore ....
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:44 PM   #7
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That awkward moment when Paul Kruger has scored more points in the last 2 weeks than Brees has.
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Offensive line was terrible. Bucs have a good D-line to begin with but not having Unger made them look even better. Most plays they were in the backfield before the handoff so I don't blame Payton for wanting to throw on 3-1, I just wish we would use quick slants in those situations, you only need a yard not 10.
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Where's the fire? We need to play the Rams every week.
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Old 12-13-2016, 03:12 PM   #10
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Should have titled this post Saints Offense Crumbles Against The Bucs!

For all the mistakes the defense made, when you look at the numbers they held up their end of the deal:

Once again did not allow a second half TD

Held Bucs to 3.0 yds rushing and under 200 yds passing

Kept Winston without a TD, (run or pass), for the first time ever, college or pro.
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