I would give Payton another year

The Dude · 12-18-2016, 04:00 PM

I feel like his hands have been tied due to the cap situation. I would like to see if Loomis and him can learn from their mistakes and start making some better ones. They took a bunch of gambles that didnt pan out. After Katrina if I was asked if I would sacrafice the next 10 years for a Super Bowl I would have jumped on it. I say give him another year, see what kind of personnel moves he makes, coaching changes, etc. If we dont see a big improvement next year give him the boot.

I really dont know who else would be a better fit really. I agree that Payton has gotten comforatable here and doesnt have much incintive to move anywhere else. I do think he is a good coach, maybe now that people are really holding his feet to the fire, it may just light a fire under his ass.

voodooido · 12-18-2016, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I feel like his hands have been tied due to the cap situation. I would like to see if Loomis and him can learn from their mistakes and start making some better ones. They took a bunch of gambles that didnt pan out. After Katrina if I was asked if I would sacrafice the next 10 years for a Super Bowl I would have jumped on it. I say give him another year, see what kind of personnel moves he makes, coaching changes, etc. If we dont see a big improvement next year give him the boot.

I really dont know who else would be a better fit really. I agree that Payton has gotten comforatable here and doesnt have much incintive to move anywhere else. I do think he is a good coach, maybe now that people are really holding his feet to the fire, it may just light a fire under his ass.

No. He created the cap problem. He created this defense. He became predictable on offense. I'm to old to give him another year. I want a championship before I die.

RailBoss · 12-18-2016, 04:26 PM

You mean another championship voodooido, I never thought I would live to see the first one.

44Champs · 12-18-2016, 06:06 PM

He needs to make changes on his coaching staff though. At the very least, fire McMahon to show that he cares more about the team than his own personal agenda.

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SmashMouth · 12-18-2016, 06:40 PM

2017 is our year, WhoDats! We've reloaded at lots of positions. But still need more bodies to handle a championship run next year.

The Dude · 12-18-2016, 07:06 PM

I'm hopeful for next year. Brees is just fine and it looks like he is going to have the best receiver corps he has worked with. Our offensive line should be tops too. We may have him surrounded by a very very good cast. Our defense isn't as bad as it was and we will have some money to spend there.

QBREES9 · 12-19-2016, 12:50 PM

Here's to next year!!!!

AsylumGuido · 12-19-2016, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

No. He created the cap problem. He created this defense. He became predictable on offense. I'm to old to give him another year. I want a championship before I die.

You have already had a championship and fortunately neither you or anyone else on this forum has any say whatsoever over the head coaching position with the Saints. Both Benson and Loomis love Payton and have no intention of parting ways despite meaningless speculation by a CBS Sports hack with a reputation for throwing as much crap against the wall as Ian Rapoport. They all get paid to a degree on web page clicks. Wild speculation with absolutely no basis in fact generate more clicks than the boring honest truth.

Rugby Saint II · 12-19-2016, 03:04 PM

His contract says he'll be here for five years........so, there's that to think about.

AsylumGuido · 12-19-2016, 05:47 PM

We could have had Vince Lombardi as our coach this year and with all the same injuries he might have had trouble winning as many games.

12-18-2016, 04:00 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	I would give Payton another year I feel like his hands have been tied due to the cap situation. I would like to see if Loomis and him can learn from their mistakes and start making some better ones. They took a bunch of gambles that didnt pan out. After Katrina if I was asked if I would sacrafice the next 10 years for a Super Bowl I would have jumped on it. I say give him another year, see what kind of personnel moves he makes, coaching changes, etc. If we dont see a big improvement next year give him the boot. I really dont know who else would be a better fit really. I agree that Payton has gotten comforatable here and doesnt have much incintive to move anywhere else. I do think he is a good coach, maybe now that people are really holding his feet to the fire, it may just light a fire under his ass. Halo, jnormand, SaintFanQ and 1 others like this.
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12-18-2016, 04:07 PM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,751	Re: I would give Payton another year Originally Posted by The Dude I feel like his hands have been tied due to the cap situation. I would like to see if Loomis and him can learn from their mistakes and start making some better ones. They took a bunch of gambles that didnt pan out. After Katrina if I was asked if I would sacrafice the next 10 years for a Super Bowl I would have jumped on it. I say give him another year, see what kind of personnel moves he makes, coaching changes, etc. If we dont see a big improvement next year give him the boot. I really dont know who else would be a better fit really. I agree that Payton has gotten comforatable here and doesnt have much incintive to move anywhere else. I do think he is a good coach, maybe now that people are really holding his feet to the fire, it may just light a fire under his ass. No. He created the cap problem. He created this defense. He became predictable on offense. I'm to old to give him another year. I want a championship before I die. RailBoss and AlaskaSaints like this.
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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: I would give Payton another year You mean another championship voodooido, I never thought I would live to see the first one. jnormand, SaintFanQ and voodooido like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: I would give Payton another year I'm hopeful for next year. Brees is just fine and it looks like he is going to have the best receiver corps he has worked with. Our offensive line should be tops too. We may have him surrounded by a very very good cast. Our defense isn't as bad as it was and we will have some money to spend there. jnormand likes this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: I would give Payton another year Originally Posted by voodooido No. He created the cap problem. He created this defense. He became predictable on offense. I'm to old to give him another year. I want a championship before I die. You have already had a championship and fortunately neither you or anyone else on this forum has any say whatsoever over the head coaching position with the Saints. Both Benson and Loomis love Payton and have no intention of parting ways despite meaningless speculation by a CBS Sports hack with a reputation for throwing as much crap against the wall as Ian Rapoport. They all get paid to a degree on web page clicks. Wild speculation with absolutely no basis in fact generate more clicks than the boring honest truth. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: I would give Payton another year His contract says he'll be here for five years........so, there's that to think about.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: I would give Payton another year We could have had Vince Lombardi as our coach this year and with all the same injuries he might have had trouble winning as many games.

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