Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Smear campaign??? You\'d think that the guy already played for the Falcons considering his receipt by fans on this site.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

What pick do they have in the draft? Maybe we can get Keith Brooking? That\'s okay, they don\'t pick until 27. Damn. If only they were Minnesota. ;)

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Horn wouldn\'t really want to go to Atlanta -- Vick is not a solid passer yet -- moving there would hurt Joe\'s stats -- and he wouldn\'t have that

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

True dat. :xxrotflmao:

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

The guy is 33 years old. I can\'t for the life of me figure out why he hasn\'t just been cut.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Geee, I don\'t know...maybe because he is one of the best WR\'s in the game and is coming off his best season yet? A season where he finished 2nd in the league in receptions and yards. Seriously, if you were the GM of the Saints, I would find a new team. The Saints do some stupid ****, but nothing would be dumber than cutting Joe Horn as of right now.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

I think you missed Who\'s sarcasm. Who believes this team that is only 5 mil under the cap should not only keep Howard at 7.8 mil or sign him to the deal he wants(ya know with the 16 mil bonus), but pay Horn top 5 money which he has demanded, and find room to sign draft picks. But screw a new contract for Deuce or LeCharles like the front office promised. Let them sit a year and go back on your word.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

The falcons don\'t have the cap room to pay top five money.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

another link gumbo, that one didnt work for me and i couldnt find it at ajc.com

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

I agree with whodi.....hey Joe don\'t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!! Although i would love to keep him ,but not for top 5 money....7-10 range or later Hollywood!

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Oh, I see, top 5 money is not OK, but top 7 money is. That makes sense.

The highest paid WR in the NFL is Randy Moss. He makes 8.6 million a year on average. Fifth highest is T.O. - he makes 7.2 million a year. Horn currently makes an average of 4 million. So I guess it\'s OK to pay Joe Horn 6.5 million or 7 million a season, but paying him 7.2 million a season is just too much. Who, exactly, do you guys think the Saints are going to sign for $200,000 to $700,000 a season that will make the loss of Joe Horn worth it???

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

4 million...... he should play out his contract!!!!or hit the road jack!!!!!!

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Oh yeah - this has a whole lot to do with the team\'s honor huh? Didn\'t they promise Howard a contract BEFORE the franchised him LAST SEASON, and then again AFTER they franchised him LAST season?

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

you must not be talking to me, cause I wouldn\'t guarantee Joe the 7-10 range. I would make offer him a contract with incentives that reach top 5 range if he puts up numbers similar to those he already has. To me, that is the most fair deal for Joe and the team. You keep producing these numbers, you keep getting paid like it. You don\'t keep these numbers, you don\'t get paid like it. But Joe\'s comments are that he wants a top 5 contract no ifs ands or buts. Mike Williams would come cheaper than that. Trade Joe to Minny for a shot at him. I will bet anything this time next season, and 5 years from now when Mike can still play, you will be saying Joe who?

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

His contract actually costs the team something close to $6 million this season actually. So you\'re OK with him costing the team $6 million this year, but not next year or the year after? Makes perfect sense.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

If you haven\'t noticed, Howard wants a deal similar to Grant Wistrom\'s but more. Seattle way overpaid for Wistrom. So WhoDat would give a 16 mil bonus to Darren Howard, which he is asking for? Wow dude. I really and truly am starting belive you do not think a cap is in effect. And I have a lot of respect for you and your opinion Who. Just wow man.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Actually no then...6 mil is too much he can stay for 4 million. i just noticed u put avg of 4 mil...sorry. WOW 6 Million!!!!!! NO WAY IN HE!! LATER JOEEEEEEE

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Actually it would make sense to pay a 33 yr old 6 mil rather than a 34 or 35 yr old!!! I would just love to see him play his contract out. would rather resign Deuce and Lecharles

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

You\'ve been hanging around with Billy too much. Show me where I ever said that I would pay Howard what he\'s asking. I said it won\'t hurt my feelings to see Howard stay and play under the franchise tag. He played under the tag last season - I didn\'t hear anyone complaining while he was leading the team in sacks.

This is why I dislike the offseason. Things get blown out of proportion. All of a sudden the prospect of having to play with two Pro Bowlers next season translates into certain doom.

Right, b/c if the Saints trade Howard and Horn right now, they will DEFINITELY sign another WR of the #1 starting top 5 or even top 10 variety AND they\'ll sign a stud LB AND they\'ll come to terms with Deuce and Bentley and McKenzie overnight. Sure they will. You guys are basing these beliefs on what? Past performance of the team??

Considering how little credit people here have given Loomis and Haslett, I can\'t understand why you would want them making any changes - they certainly haven\'t made very good ones in the past.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

It\'s called the benfit of the doubt. I am the biggest critic of the front office, but you obviously have not been listening to me. I said we trade Joe if and only if we were making a move for a replacement, such as trading for Minny\'s #7 and Mike Williams. I never said blindly trade Joe with no back-up plan. Now I know it would never happen, but that\'s what I would do, not the team.

Howard played under the tag last season cause A) Will Smith was a rookie and B) sullivan was in the process of showing us how much of a bust first round picks could be. We know Will Smith is the real deal, thus Howard playing under the franchise tag is no longer acceptable. We have 2 starters at DE already, show me a team in the league that has three STARTERS at one position. I don\'t think there would be many, if any. It\'s not reality in the cap era. I do believe we will see headway on deals for Bentley and Deuce once Howard is traded. I would bet on it. That\'s a good thing no? Do we want to be franchising Deuce next year like Indy and Seattle have had to do? I should think not.



[Edited on 15/3/2005 by saintswhodi]

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Joe Horn will just be like Peerless Price if he goes there. But hey as long as he\'s going to get paid, it wouldn\'t matter to him.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

PLEASE, elaborate. I\'m curious.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Big contract and a qb who can\'t get him the ball. His value will diminish and he will be considered an overpaid WR. Doesn\'t matter though, I\'d be happy getting the type of money he will be getting no matter how many balls come my way.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Thanks, sig update :P

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

um fire venturi if the team can cut guys with years left on their contracts then the players have the right to demand another contract before their current one is up. there is no way you can logically argue that

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Who wouldn\'t :P

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Ummm...


I can\'t speak for WhoDat, but ME!!! ME!!!! ME!!!

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Me and you both know how much WhoDat :heartpump: Joe Horn. They might as well get married ;) How about that for you new sig?!?!

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Falls short of the one I have now, thanks ><

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Papz, I know that it\'s not my business but read your quote again and try to think of what\'s said and think like B&B. Remember, he\'s sick.
Do you see why he kept it as his sig?

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Wasn\'t that entrapment? No... wait, you just threw him a bone and he got a little nuts.

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

This coming from a guy who has a quote in his sig that references \"pop\", \"juices\", and \"hot dog\". The nerve....

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Hey I\'m not thinking straight because I\'ve had one too many :givebeer: . But heck if he goes to the Falcons, he will receive a big contract like the one Price got, and look where it\'s gotten him :o But if I\'m Joe Horn, I\'d take the money and ride it out too.

Who wouldn\'t?

[Edited on 16/3/2005 by papz]

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Horn >>>>>>> Price

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Horn is 110% better than Price... but Vick can\'t throw.

Well at least yet... If I had to choose whether to catch 80 plus balls or make 6 plus million dollars and catch 50 balls, I would choose the 6 plus million dollars in a heartbeat. I\'d have a family to feed and a big mansion to spend maintence on. But that\'s just me ;)



[Edited on 16/3/2005 by papz]

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Don\'t forget \"delicious\".

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

LOL now that I\'m sober... and I can see straight B&B :idea: ... you are a sick puppy! It was the beer I tell ya! :doh:

[Edited on 16/3/2005 by papz]

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Yeah ... that\'s what I\'m doing, WhoDat. I just want to make Joe Horn look bad ... :casstet:

I\'ve never made Joe say the things he has said.

Nope!

I never told Joe to tell the fans to shutup.
I never told him to say he wanted top 5 money.
I never told him to say he wanted to be a Falcon.

Nope! Joe did that all by himself.

Now, carry on defending Joe Horn, WhoDat. By all means, carry on ... :o

Joe Horn wants to be a Falcon ...
 

Joe is an idiot. Joe Horn says some really stupid things.
Joe Horn continues to piss me off quite frequently.
Joe Horn acts like a freakin fool so often my head spins.

But Joe can play. And he\'s better than any other WR we currently have.

Joe Horn wants to get Joe Horn as much money as humanly possible. Danno is growing tired of Joe Horn, and would like to see him shut his freakin yap-hole.

I\'m all for replacing Joe with a comparable player. Now lets go get a comparable player. Easy enough?