Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut

Audiotom · 12-25-2016, 01:12 AM

2 ints, some tackles, and around the ball

You would think this guy finally shows up to keep his high salary or for highlight film for his next NFL teams contract

nola_swammi · 12-25-2016, 02:58 AM

He is getting one anyway, his money will be to secure Brees contract

jeanpierre · 12-25-2016, 06:52 AM

Byrd is the worst kind of player, a guy who only plays hard for a short burst for his next contract...

Let Washington or Miami overpay for him...

Wouldn't even mind if he went to the Falcons and Brees & Co. torched him there...

...probably what's gonna happen anyways...

K Major · 12-25-2016, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Let Washington or Miami overpay for him...

Wouldn't even mind if he went to the Falcons and Brees & Co. torched him there...

...probably what's gonna happen anyways...

I'm not so sure about that on JP. Sean and Dennis often talk about consistency and keeping guys together/not adjusting scheme. You already know what happens when we remove guys from the back end to insert new players (see year 2014).

Wk 9 - highest grade on team (according to PFF)
Wk 12 - JB was rated 5th on team (with Kenny V)
Wk 13 - JB was rated 3rd best on team
Wk 14 - JB was rated 4th best on team

As you can see, he has been solid since the mid mark of the season. DA has figured out something (3 safety sets). It's more beneficial to keep him (work out a restructure), and keep him another year. Under the circumstances I think DA has done a good job of putting players in position to make plays. Maybe this off season the FO adds another corner back so only another player is having to learn the system, then double down on the three safety set & also add a top tier pass rusher.

It's pretty clear he was injured and was playing on a bad ... historically bad defense ever a year or so ago. Now that we are decent, so is Byrd. I don't think this is coincidence. Cutting him in 2017 doesn't make sense but 2018 does.

No way I'd let Byrd walk over 3.5M or so. Hindsight is 20/20 but I hate the contract ... not the player.

dizzle88 · 12-25-2016, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm not so sure about that on JP. Sean and Dennis often talk about consistency and keeping guys together/not adjusting scheme. You already know what happens when we remove guys from the back end to insert new players (see year 2014).

Wk 9 - highest grade on team (according to PFF)
Wk 12 - JB was rated 5th on team (with Kenny V)
Wk 13 - JB was rated 3rd best on team
Wk 14 - JB was rated 4th best on team

As you can see, he has been solid since the mid mark of the season. DA has figured out something (3 safety sets). It's more beneficial to keep him (work out a restructure), and keep him another year. Under the circumstances I think DA has done a good job of putting players in position to make plays. Maybe this off season the FO adds another corner back so only another player is having to learn the system, then double down on the three safety set & also add a top tier pass rusher.

It's pretty clear he was injured and was playing on a bad ... historically bad defense ever a year or so ago. Now that we are decent, so is Byrd. I don't think this is coincidence. Cutting him in 2017 doesn't make sense but 2018 does.

No way I'd let Byrd walk over 3.5M or so. Hindsight is 20/20 but I hate the contract ... not the player.

Byrd has been playing better this season and I like how when he got benched in favour of Vonn Bell, he didn't complain, he just mentored Vonn Bell whenever he came to the sideline.

jeanpierre · 12-26-2016, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm not so sure about that on JP. Sean and Dennis often talk about consistency and keeping guys together/not adjusting scheme. You already know what happens when we remove guys from the back end to insert new players (see year 2014).

Wk 9 - highest grade on team (according to PFF)
Wk 12 - JB was rated 5th on team (with Kenny V)
Wk 13 - JB was rated 3rd best on team
Wk 14 - JB was rated 4th best on team

As you can see, he has been solid since the mid mark of the season. DA has figured out something (3 safety sets). It's more beneficial to keep him (work out a restructure), and keep him another year. Under the circumstances I think DA has done a good job of putting players in position to make plays. Maybe this off season the FO adds another corner back so only another player is having to learn the system, then double down on the three safety set & also add a top tier pass rusher.

It's pretty clear he was injured and was playing on a bad ... historically bad defense ever a year or so ago. Now that we are decent, so is Byrd. I don't think this is coincidence. Cutting him in 2017 doesn't make sense but 2018 does.

No way I'd let Byrd walk over 3.5M or so. Hindsight is 20/20 but I hate the contract ... not the player.

I'm not buying it, not one bit...Two games to go in the season and he shows up?

Gotta look at the whole tenure, injuries and all...He was not available for most of the time he's been here...Payton was even frustrated, questioning it last season...

And Kenny V, a player with less time in the league, had to finally call him out...

Walks like duck, quacks like a duck...they're better safeties available for less...

And if the secondary looked better, it was because we finally had a pass rush and a MIKE that could cover...

AsylumGuido · 12-25-2016, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

2 ints, some tackles, and around the ball

You would think this guy finally shows up to keep his high salary or for highlight film for his next NFL teams contract

He is completely healthy for the first time in his tenure here.

spkb25 · 12-25-2016, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He is completely healthy for the first time in his tenure here.

I think he is healthy and been on the field enough to finally get a feel for the people around him. I also think after KV and some other people called him out/called each other out there has been a difference. Plus he was benched and I am sure that hurt his pride.

I'd be surprised if he didn't take a pay cut and stay with us next year, but I don't even care as long as he is producing, and he has been all over the field lately.

dizzle88 · 12-25-2016, 08:09 AM

Have to say I was impressed, especially with his second pick. He read the play perfectly and made a great jump on the route, unfortunately it may be too late.

SmashMouth · 12-25-2016, 08:41 AM

Isn't he under contract for another year?

12-25-2016, 01:12 AM	#1
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut 2 ints, some tackles, and around the ball You would think this guy finally shows up to keep his high salary or for highlight film for his next NFL teams contract

12-25-2016, 02:58 AM	#2
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut He is getting one anyway, his money will be to secure Brees contract

12-25-2016, 06:52 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut Byrd is the worst kind of player, a guy who only plays hard for a short burst for his next contract... Let Washington or Miami overpay for him... Wouldn't even mind if he went to the Falcons and Brees & Co. torched him there... ...probably what's gonna happen anyways... Barry from MS and Audiotom like this.

12-25-2016, 01:29 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut Originally Posted by jeanpierre Let Washington or Miami overpay for him... Wouldn't even mind if he went to the Falcons and Brees & Co. torched him there... ...probably what's gonna happen anyways... I'm not so sure about that on JP. Sean and Dennis often talk about consistency and keeping guys together/not adjusting scheme. You already know what happens when we remove guys from the back end to insert new players (see year 2014). Wk 9 - highest grade on team (according to PFF) Wk 12 - JB was rated 5th on team (with Kenny V) Wk 13 - JB was rated 3rd best on team Wk 14 - JB was rated 4th best on team As you can see, he has been solid since the mid mark of the season. DA has figured out something (3 safety sets). It's more beneficial to keep him (work out a restructure), and keep him another year. Under the circumstances I think DA has done a good job of putting players in position to make plays. Maybe this off season the FO adds another corner back so only another player is having to learn the system, then double down on the three safety set & also add a top tier pass rusher. It's pretty clear he was injured and was playing on a bad ... historically bad defense ever a year or so ago. Now that we are decent, so is Byrd. I don't think this is coincidence. Cutting him in 2017 doesn't make sense but 2018 does. No way I'd let Byrd walk over 3.5M or so. Hindsight is 20/20 but I hate the contract ... not the player. RockyMountainSaint, AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.

12-25-2016, 03:15 PM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut Originally Posted by K Major I'm not so sure about that on JP. Sean and Dennis often talk about consistency and keeping guys together/not adjusting scheme. You already know what happens when we remove guys from the back end to insert new players (see year 2014). Wk 9 - highest grade on team (according to PFF) Wk 12 - JB was rated 5th on team (with Kenny V) Wk 13 - JB was rated 3rd best on team Wk 14 - JB was rated 4th best on team As you can see, he has been solid since the mid mark of the season. DA has figured out something (3 safety sets). It's more beneficial to keep him (work out a restructure), and keep him another year. Under the circumstances I think DA has done a good job of putting players in position to make plays. Maybe this off season the FO adds another corner back so only another player is having to learn the system, then double down on the three safety set & also add a top tier pass rusher. It's pretty clear he was injured and was playing on a bad ... historically bad defense ever a year or so ago. Now that we are decent, so is Byrd. I don't think this is coincidence. Cutting him in 2017 doesn't make sense but 2018 does. No way I'd let Byrd walk over 3.5M or so. Hindsight is 20/20 but I hate the contract ... not the player. Byrd has been playing better this season and I like how when he got benched in favour of Vonn Bell, he didn't complain, he just mentored Vonn Bell whenever he came to the sideline. spkb25, RockyMountainSaint and SmashMouth like this.

12-26-2016, 04:54 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut Originally Posted by K Major I'm not so sure about that on JP. Sean and Dennis often talk about consistency and keeping guys together/not adjusting scheme. You already know what happens when we remove guys from the back end to insert new players (see year 2014). Wk 9 - highest grade on team (according to PFF) Wk 12 - JB was rated 5th on team (with Kenny V) Wk 13 - JB was rated 3rd best on team Wk 14 - JB was rated 4th best on team As you can see, he has been solid since the mid mark of the season. DA has figured out something (3 safety sets). It's more beneficial to keep him (work out a restructure), and keep him another year. Under the circumstances I think DA has done a good job of putting players in position to make plays. Maybe this off season the FO adds another corner back so only another player is having to learn the system, then double down on the three safety set & also add a top tier pass rusher. It's pretty clear he was injured and was playing on a bad ... historically bad defense ever a year or so ago. Now that we are decent, so is Byrd. I don't think this is coincidence. Cutting him in 2017 doesn't make sense but 2018 does. No way I'd let Byrd walk over 3.5M or so. Hindsight is 20/20 but I hate the contract ... not the player. I'm not buying it, not one bit...Two games to go in the season and he shows up? Gotta look at the whole tenure, injuries and all...He was not available for most of the time he's been here...Payton was even frustrated, questioning it last season... And Kenny V, a player with less time in the league, had to finally call him out... Walks like duck, quacks like a duck...they're better safeties available for less... And if the secondary looked better, it was because we finally had a pass rush and a MIKE that could cover... jonnyrotten and Barry from MS like this.
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12-25-2016, 08:05 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut Originally Posted by Audiotom 2 ints, some tackles, and around the ball You would think this guy finally shows up to keep his high salary or for highlight film for his next NFL teams contract He is completely healthy for the first time in his tenure here. RockyMountainSaint, CharityMike and K Major like this.

12-25-2016, 08:08 AM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He is completely healthy for the first time in his tenure here. I think he is healthy and been on the field enough to finally get a feel for the people around him. I also think after KV and some other people called him out/called each other out there has been a difference. Plus he was benched and I am sure that hurt his pride. I'd be surprised if he didn't take a pay cut and stay with us next year, but I don't even care as long as he is producing, and he has been all over the field lately. RockyMountainSaint and CharityMike like this.

12-25-2016, 08:09 AM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut Have to say I was impressed, especially with his second pick. He read the play perfectly and made a great jump on the route, unfortunately it may be too late.

12-25-2016, 08:41 AM	#10
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jairus Byrd - playing like he might not want a pay cut Isn't he under contract for another year?

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