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jeanpierre 01-07-2017 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 732869)
Saw a report somewhere that said the Ravens are going to let RT Ricky Wagner hit free agency. I don't know how willing he'd be to play guard but he needs to be high on our list right behind Kevin Zeitler.

Those Ravens castoffs don't always work out well for us...

Grubbs was horrible...

ChrisXVI 01-07-2017 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 732912)
Those Ravens castoffs don't always work out well for us...

Grubbs was horrible...

I'm thinking that since Zeitler and Wagner were teammates at Wisconsin at least they'd have chemistry already... We'd just have to import a few pallets of cheese curds and New Glarus beer to keep them happy!

Rugby Saint II 01-07-2017 02:00 PM

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If we get Zeitler who from what I've read is ideal as a run mauling/pass blocking machine then I'd probably rather spend the additional money on another area of need while drafting Strief's replacement(again). Our O-line coach did a fine job last year and we need to give him more talent to develop and continue to improve continuity.

MarchingOn 01-07-2017 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 732919)
I'm thinking that since Zeitler and Wagner were teammates at Wisconsin at least they'd have chemistry already... We'd just have to import a few pallets of cheese curds and New Glarus beer to keep them happy!

Always wondered why a team in the draft doesn't draft multiple players on the same sub-unit who've already demonstrated they can play well together.

Sub-units with pre-installed chemistry...O Line, DBs, QB/WRs/TE.

Should play better together than their individual draft grades...so, value picks, too.

lee909 01-07-2017 04:40 PM

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Would anyone pay Jamie Collins the money he wants if he hits the open market

One of my favourite defensive players to watch. Him and Robertson would give the Linebackers some great sideline to sideline movement

hagan714 01-07-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 732912)
Those Ravens castoffs don't always work out well for us...

Grubbs was horrible...

AGE is the factor here.
28 - 29 is the usual point were players start showing wear and tear on the OL. We traded Ben at the rip old age of 31.

at 26 you still have a more than a couple of years left of prime play before the slide starts.

If all goes well both will leave with Drew and cap space will once again be there to chase other players and a ring or two to boot

AsylumGuido 01-07-2017 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MarchingOn (Post 732941)
Always wondered why a team in the draft doesn't draft multiple players on the same sub-unit who've already demonstrated they can play well together.

Sub-units with pre-installed chemistry...O Line, DBs, QB/WRs/TE.

Should play better together than their individual draft grades...so, value picks, too.

Because few, if any, college team has professional quality players in complementary positions, and if they do there are 31 other teams drafting, as well.

hagan714 01-07-2017 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 732969)
Would anyone pay Jamie Collins the money he wants if he hits the open market

One of my favourite defensive players to watch. Him and Robertson would give the Linebackers some great sideline to sideline movement

Jamie Collins was looking for a contract just around Von: 6-$114.5M. 19/yr

Luke Kuechly, gets $12 million and Collins thought that was not enough

15 mill/yr? So the Pats traded him. Thus is life inside the Pats organization.

That kind of money into one player will not help us enough.

If we are knocking on the gates of the super bowl yet again and he looked to be that one player to kick them open, then sure go for it. But he needs a supporting cast around him to make a steady impact game in and game out.

Collins is a key piece of the puzzle type of player. Not a corner stone on which to build. We need cornerstones for the defense.

brees84 01-07-2017 06:31 PM

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A.J. Bouye plays like a beast in this playoff game.

jeanpierre 01-07-2017 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 732181)
Jamie Collins would be worth every penny.

You know what would be ironic? It is very likely Collins could have been our second round pick had we not gotten the Goodell BountyBeatdown...


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