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dizzle88 01-05-2017 08:37 PM

Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
 
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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 732710)
I did read everything you wrote. You're narrow minded and still have tunnel vision.

How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games.

If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game.

spkb25 01-05-2017 08:38 PM

Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 732713)
How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games.

If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game.

It is literally as if they have no ability to objectively judge.

RockyMountainSaint 01-05-2017 08:42 PM

Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 732668)
Quickest thread to 8 pages ever? LMAO

Well in all fairness.......

Half of the posts are submitted by the same four members hijacking yet another thread, arguing about the same things they argue about in every other hijacked thread.

The irony is that this thread is supposed to be about SP actually changing something we all agreed he wouldn't.

And yet...........

AsylumGuido 01-05-2017 08:43 PM

Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 732707)
The defense let up 9 points against the Giants. Horrible. I hear ya,
The Defense let up 16 points against the Bucs, Horrible you say
The Defense let up 20 points against the Chiefs, horrible you say
The defense let up 23 points had 6 sacks and two turnovers against the Broncos and held them to FG's after two turnovers, one at our 34 and one at our 20. horrible.
Against the Panthers they let up 23 points even though the offense had two turnovers inside our 35 yard line. The panthers longest drive was 51 yards, horrible

Like has been proven all 5 of those losses were solely on the offense

No, you are wrong. The defenses of the Giants, Bucs, Chiefs, Broncos and Panthers all among the best. That forces the offense to take more chances when your defense and special teams suck. Those are the very teams that would take advantage of the pressure placed upon the offense.

spkb25 01-05-2017 08:45 PM

Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 732716)
No, you are wrong. The defenses of the Giants, Bucs, Chiefs, Broncos and Panthers all among the best. That forces the offense to take more chances when your defense and special teams suck. Those are the very teams that would take advantage of the pressure placed upon the offense.

The defense let up 9 points against the Giants. Horrible. I hear ya,
The Defense let up 16 points against the Bucs, Horrible you say
The Defense let up 20 points against the Chiefs, and the offense turned the ball over 3 times, once for a TD, horrible you say
The defense let up 23 points had 6 sacks and two turnovers against the Broncos and held them to FG's after two turnovers, one at our 34 and one at our 20. horrible.
Against the Panthers they let up 23 points even though the offense had two turnovers inside our 35 yard line. The panthers longest drive was 51 yards, horrible

Like has been proven all 5 of those losses were solely on the offense

AsylumGuido 01-05-2017 08:46 PM

Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 732713)
How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games.

If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game.

Did I ever say the offense didn't deserve any blame? NO! Yet he claims the offense deserves ALL the blame in those losses. THAT is bullcrap and anyone with any degree of logic could understand that very simple fact.

AsylumGuido 01-05-2017 08:47 PM

Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 732718)
The defense let up 9 points against the Giants. Horrible. I hear ya,
The Defense let up 16 points against the Bucs, Horrible you say
The Defense let up 20 points against the Chiefs, and the offense turned the ball over 3 times, once for a TD, horrible you say
The defense let up 23 points had 6 sacks and two turnovers against the Broncos and held them to FG's after two turnovers, one at our 34 and one at our 20. horrible.
Against the Panthers they let up 23 points even though the offense had two turnovers inside our 35 yard line. The panthers longest drive was 51 yards, horrible

Like has been proven all 5 of those losses were solely on the offense

Whatever. Believe what you want. Live in your little dreamland.

What is the objective to your silly crusade?

spkb25 01-05-2017 08:47 PM

Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 732719)
Did I ever say the offense didn't deserve any blame? NO! Yet he claims the offense deserves ALL the blame in those losses. THAT is bullcrap and anyone with any degree of logic could understand that very simple fact.

Dizzle, what he's doing now is trying to change his argument. He is trying to change what he said a little bit ago. Earlier he said that the defense played horrible in those 5 games, now he is changing it to the offense doesn't deserve all the blame, lolol

spkb25 01-05-2017 08:51 PM

Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
 
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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 732715)
Well in all fairness.......

Half of the posts are submitted by the same four members hijacking yet another thread, arguing about the same things they argue about in every other hijacked thread.

The irony is that this thread is supposed to be about SP actually changing something we all agreed he wouldn't.

And yet...........

I wasn't trying to bro. Really wasn't. I appreciate the likes though ;)

AsylumGuido 01-05-2017 08:52 PM

Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 732721)
Dizzle, what he's doing now is trying to change his argument. He is trying to change what he said a little bit ago. Earlier he said that the defense played horrible in those 5 games, now he is changing it to the offense doesn't deserve all the blame, lolol

Wrong, friend. I said the defense and special teams played poorly all season and the offense was repeatedly forced to take chances. But, yes, there were tipped passes that resulted in picks. There were untimely fumbles. There were forces passes. I never said the defense played horribly in those losses. They played well considering.


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