Saints with 7th best record in the last ten years

WillSaints81 · 01-11-2017, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

How the **** is that unfair? Is it unfair to count any of the other team's good seasons? Or just the Saints?

I can almost agree with your last 4 years comment. But you lost me with the unfair comment. Ridiculous. As usual.

It is unfair because we only have five noteworthy seasons. And they have happened nearly in succession(4 of 5 seasons) outside of the first season.

Furthermore, the last ten years means nothing and all of those double digit win seasons have been surrounded by no less than 7 wins. We are also underneath all of the other notable teams who had runs from 2006. We're probably the top of the rest of the pack.

spkb25 · 01-08-2017, 05:33 PM

10-6
7-9
8-8
13-3
11-5
13-3
7-9
11-5
7-9
7-9
7-9

You call that 50%

Gonna go ahead and make sure to state that Damian Swann has been hurt the better part of two years, Kikaha missed all of last year, similar injuries in college, Williams has played 1.5 games out of 32 since entering the NFL, Ellerbe will miss a good half the season. I am not counting on these guys to make huge contributions. They may, but counting on it would not be smart.

AsylumGuido · 01-09-2017, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

10-6
7-9
8-8
13-3
11-5
13-3
7-9
11-5
7-9
7-9
7-9

You call that 50%

Gonna go ahead and make sure to state that Damian Swann has been hurt the better part of two years, Kikaha missed all of last year, similar injuries in college, Williams has played 1.5 games out of 32 since entering the NFL, Ellerbe will miss a good half the season. I am not counting on these guys to make huge contributions. They may, but counting on it would not be smart.

I call that one season at 50%, four seasons at one game under 50%, and five seasons at four or more games over 50%. 94-66 overall or 58.8%. Don't forget that the 2012 season does not belong to Payton at all. If anyone, it belongs to Goodell.

RailBoss · 01-09-2017, 10:32 AM

As much as I like Kikaha I'm afraid the ACL injuries (3) are going to doom
him in the NFL.

dizzle88 · 01-09-2017, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

As much as I like Kikaha I'm afraid the ACL injuries (3) are going to doom
him in the NFL.

Agreed, coming back from 2 ACL tears and having a great season in college is one thing, now another injury along, how is he going to respond.

We sure do love injury prone players.

neugey · 01-10-2017, 01:07 PM

I guess 7th isn't bad. Someone give us a cookie.

UK_WhoDat · 01-15-2017, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I guess 7th isn't bad. Someone give us a cookie.

Cor! I feel great on that 7th

voodooido · 01-10-2017, 01:39 PM

Last 3 years we sucked. Bottom line SP has to find a way to break through this funk. Don't waste another year of Drew.

saintsfan1976 · 01-10-2017, 02:27 PM

The top 6 teams draft well year in and year out. I'll go out on a limb and guess each teams' dead money is bottom half of the league also.

AsylumGuido · 01-10-2017, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

The top 6 teams draft well year in and year out. I'll go out on a limb and guess each teams' dead money is bottom half of the league also.

Well, now that you mention it, that limb would break ...

2016 top dead money list (playoff teams in bold)

1. Saints $42,117,529
2. Browns $34,769,318
3. Falcons $25,515,681
4. Lions $24,640,869
5. Eagles $23,450,018
6. Rams $21,289,406
7. Bills $18,545,345
8. Titans $18,025,957
9. Colts $17,134,153
10. Dolphins $16,872,639
12. Patriots $16,653,725
16. Giants $14,597,316

So, five of the playoff teams were in the upper half of dead money in 2016, including the Falcons at #3 and the Lions at #4. And how about those annually successful Patriots at #12?

And, in addition, the Saints 2017 dead money figure will be right at $9 million.

01-08-2017, 05:33 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Saints with 7th best record in the last ten years 10-6 7-9 8-8 13-3 11-5 13-3 7-9 11-5 7-9 7-9 7-9 You call that 50% Gonna go ahead and make sure to state that Damian Swann has been hurt the better part of two years, Kikaha missed all of last year, similar injuries in college, Williams has played 1.5 games out of 32 since entering the NFL, Ellerbe will miss a good half the season. I am not counting on these guys to make huge contributions. They may, but counting on it would not be smart. dizzle88 likes this.

01-09-2017, 10:50 AM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Saints with 7th best record in the last ten years Originally Posted by RailBoss As much as I like Kikaha I'm afraid the ACL injuries (3) are going to doom him in the NFL. Agreed, coming back from 2 ACL tears and having a great season in college is one thing, now another injury along, how is he going to respond. We sure do love injury prone players.

01-10-2017, 01:07 PM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,834 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints with 7th best record in the last ten years I guess 7th isn't bad. Someone give us a cookie.

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UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: Saints with 7th best record in the last ten years Originally Posted by neugey I guess 7th isn't bad. Someone give us a cookie. Cor! I feel great on that 7th

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01-11-2017, 08:58 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,278	Re: Saints with 7th best record in the last ten years Originally Posted by jnormand How the **** is that unfair? Is it unfair to count any of the other team's good seasons? Or just the Saints? I can almost agree with your last 4 years comment. But you lost me with the unfair comment. Ridiculous. As usual. It is unfair because we only have five noteworthy seasons. And they have happened nearly in succession(4 of 5 seasons) outside of the first season. Furthermore, the last ten years means nothing and all of those double digit win seasons have been surrounded by no less than 7 wins. We are also underneath all of the other notable teams who had runs from 2006. We're probably the top of the rest of the pack.

01-09-2017, 08:05 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints with 7th best record in the last ten years Originally Posted by spkb25 10-6 7-9 8-8 13-3 11-5 13-3 7-9 11-5 7-9 7-9 7-9 You call that 50% Gonna go ahead and make sure to state that Damian Swann has been hurt the better part of two years, Kikaha missed all of last year, similar injuries in college, Williams has played 1.5 games out of 32 since entering the NFL, Ellerbe will miss a good half the season. I am not counting on these guys to make huge contributions. They may, but counting on it would not be smart. I call that one season at 50%, four seasons at one game under 50%, and five seasons at four or more games over 50%. 94-66 overall or 58.8%. Don't forget that the 2012 season does not belong to Payton at all. If anyone, it belongs to Goodell.

01-09-2017, 10:32 AM	#4
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Saints with 7th best record in the last ten years As much as I like Kikaha I'm afraid the ACL injuries (3) are going to doom him in the NFL. jnormand, dizzle88 and K Major like this.

01-10-2017, 02:27 PM	#9
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints with 7th best record in the last ten years The top 6 teams draft well year in and year out. I'll go out on a limb and guess each teams' dead money is bottom half of the league also.

01-10-2017, 04:10 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints with 7th best record in the last ten years Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 The top 6 teams draft well year in and year out. I'll go out on a limb and guess each teams' dead money is bottom half of the league also. Well, now that you mention it, that limb would break ... 2016 top dead money list (playoff teams in bold) 1. Saints $42,117,529 2. Browns $34,769,318 3. Falcons $25,515,681 4. Lions $24,640,869 5. Eagles $23,450,018 6. Rams $21,289,406 7. Bills $18,545,345 8. Titans $18,025,957 9. Colts $17,134,153 10. Dolphins $16,872,639 12. Patriots $16,653,725 16. Giants $14,597,316 So, five of the playoff teams were in the upper half of dead money in 2016, including the Falcons at #3 and the Lions at #4. And how about those annually successful Patriots at #12? And, in addition, the Saints 2017 dead money figure will be right at $9 million.
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